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[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 3 days ago

lol i always complain that chinese food restaurants are a scam because its mostly vegetables.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago

Gotta find the hidden Chinese food court in your area that takes a ten dollar bill and gives you a box of delicious food packed into a dense brick by the closing of the lid

[-] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago

thonk I always feel like Thai is a scam for its excessive rice and noodles (flavor and nutritional valueless). Refrying it with a bunch of vegetables is pretty awesome tho.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 3 days ago

its great flavor but come the price of the dishes is not remotely close to the price of its ingredients. their profit margins are absurd to the point its a scam

[-] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago

Fair enough

[-] uSSRI@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago

My local good Thai restaurant is now $5-$10 more expensive than other restaurants of similar quality. Might be something to that

[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I can't find it now but there was an amerikkkan hit piece on China from early COVID lockdowns about their free food boxes not containing enough meat for a person to survive.

[-] dat_math@hexbear.net 39 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

not containing enough meat for a person to survive

That's weird. The amount of meat required for a person to survive is exactly 0 grams.

[-] Hexboare@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

on eating a vegetable the white US gut microbiome attempts to kill the host

[-] buttwater@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

Nineteen years im-vegan can confirm

[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Is there a source on this? There’s no way India eats that little amount of vegetables. The majority don’t even eat meat, so if this is accurate, their diet is literally just bread or they’re flat out not eating

[-] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I imagine this map isn't counting legumes/lentils as vegetables. The Indian diet, especially vegetarian, is heavily lentil based. Lots of paneer (basically a cheese that also functions as a tofu-like ingredient for many dishes) too, and of course breads and rice as you mentioned. Also potatoes. I imagine most of those aren't considered vegetables by whatever source this map is using.

EDIT: Also of course India isn't nearly as vegetarian as people imagine. The surveys are kind of variable, but we're reasonably only sure somewhere between 20-30% of Indians are vegetarians per:

[-] ManFreakBeast@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

Idk I saw it on twitter

[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/vegetable-consumption-per-capita betting this is where they sourced it, FAO presents it at the supply level, the per capita figures are probably OWID's doing? Hilariously this probably also means the US figures are even lower due to home food waste not being accounted for

[-] Halloweenbean@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago

Hindus eat pork

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

Speaking from experience, the Indian diet is like 90-95% bread or rice and people eat something else (Veggies, Daal or meat) only for flavour. Too many carbs too little protein.

[-] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 23 points 3 days ago

a kilo of veg per day per person, damn

Death to America

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Is it even possible? Maybe it's some calculation error

[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago

I cant find those stats anywhere on the UN FAO website

[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

this sent me down a rabbithole and hot damn that website is rough to use

I found the first usable data digging into this one: https://www.fao.org/faostat/en/#data/FBS

with options looking like this (just hit select all to get all measures on that top right box):

seeing figures on the same order as whats listed in the OP:

except it's continued to increase lol

[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago

I was on the site trying to get those combinations to work. You did it

[-] Chronicon@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/vegetable-consumption-per-capita betting this is where they sourced it, FAO presents it at the supply level, the per capita figures are OWID's doing

[-] chickentendrils@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago

I think it's accurate for China. There's lot of veggies in dishes in China everywhere I've been. This is pre-cooked weight certainly. I'm in the US and definitely more vegetarian than average but each week I go through a head of broccoli, 500g-1kg of bok choy or gailan, mandolin + pre-prep 6 large onions (>2.2kg) & 10-12 bell peppers (usually ~1.5kg), a couple 250-300g sweet potatoes, and 3-4x384g bags of frozen spinach.

[-] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago

All the irrigation for their produce comes from American tears. liberty-weeping

[-] dat_math@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago

Amerikkka clocking in at just over 126kg/capita

enjoy that constipation burgerbrains

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 days ago

There's no way USians are getting half a kilogram of vegetables a day, that's way too high, this data set is sus.

[-] LocalMaxima@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago

Corn syrup counts as a vegetable

[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago

Does the average Chinese really eat over a kilogram of vegetables each day though? Especially considering they also eat fair amounts of meat, noodles and ofc rice. Seems like a lot of food.

[-] BobDole@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago
[-] Pili@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago

Burger too!

[-] machiabelly@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago

Potatoes count as a vegetable!

[-] Hexamerous@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago

Sugar is a vegetable, right?

[-] Gorillatactics@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

Westerners have been pushing genetically modified rice on developing countries under the guise of fighting malnutrition. It sounds noble until you realize that changing the genetic structure of food is seen as preferable to distributing income so that people can buy some damn vegetables. The diet of the poor is always treated as a problem of inputs with no regard for culture or taste.

[-] Hexboare@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago

I think I recall something on how at the least the first enhanced rices made no nutritional difference

[-] crispy_lol@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago

Chinese has the oldest cuisine and the best food culture and I worry about it bc the only export from the US that succeeded culturally and monetarily is the goddamn fried chicken and borger.

[-] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 days ago

I remember being semi-forced to eat at Applebees in the US, and the food was alright, but there was an everpresent "But... why?" question in my mind

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago

I do admit borger with fries, and the fry chimken is yum tho

[-] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago

Cool if true, but if I remember correctly they eat pretty big amounts of pig as well

[-] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago

China's meat consumption overall is around 60kg, putting it 56th in the world. If you don't count Hong Kong (which lol at being #1) the United States is #1 with over double, 124.11kg per person. The settler/rancher states of Australia, Argentina, New Zealand, Spain (obvi not a settler state but lots of ranching), and Israel round out the top 6 of meat consumption, all at around 100kg+.

Per here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_consumption

[-] borschtisgarbo@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 3 days ago

Pretty off topic, but does the reconquista count as settler colonialism?

[-] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

Maybe I should have stated that obviously, they hardly come close to western standards. (at least not yet, I gues it is likely growing in quantity)

[-] sweet_pecan@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago

i would have thought Vietnam was the highest!

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

If the Burgers discover this they'll do a preemptive nuclear strike.

[-] MouthyHooker@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

I swear I become more China-pilled every day

[-] Des@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

just finished eating some peas, onions, carrots and bamboo in white sauce mmm

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

China eating double the vegetables of Vietnam is a headscratcher unless they're counting tofu as a vegetable. Maybe they're counting the initial weight of the soybeans before it gets turned to tofu?

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