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[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 110 points 2 weeks ago

As a Canadian, I say this with the utmost sincerity: if you’re thinking of moving here because you’re a leftist, don’t. Canada is about to take a huge swing to the right in next year’s election. People are extremely sick of Trudeau and his refusal to withdraw from the upcoming election (he’s been in power for 9 years) will take his party down with him.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 72 points 2 weeks ago

Also, you can't afford a house, car ownership is mandatory, and we do nothing to stop our oligarchs from creating monopolies and playing silly little games like price fixing groceries.

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago

Supporting oligarchy is an official policy here. It’s based on some grossly misguided ideology that big Canadian companies will protect us against bigger American competitors. We’re raising our own breed of face-eating snow leopards!

[-] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like United States 2: Electric Boogaloo.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

They've actually got the US beat on the military-industrial complex bit, at least when adjusted for GDP.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

And we've also got a bigger housing bubble

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

And you're tearing up bike lanes like it's going out of style.

Honestly reminds me of my younger sibling trying to outdo me on random shit.

[-] Smith6826@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

Preach!

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Also 2 phone providers I believe yes?

Rogers and Bell or something?.... Or did it have "Tel" in there. I'm just guessing from memory

[-] CellarRat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

We have 3 major providers, Rogers/bell/telus with their subsidiary fido/virgin/koodo. And we do have a few small companies but they just rent bandwidth from the big 3.

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Ah shit I was close

[-] lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 2 weeks ago

If you're a leftist, wouldn't that situation make you want leftists to move there? Wouldn't that be a (tiny) net positive?

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

Leftists moving here now are not going to get citizenship in time to vote in the next election. The visa -> PR -> citizenship path takes years and years.

[-] lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 weeks ago

Yabbut, electoral politics isn't the only way to make a community better.

I just read a story yesterday about a community in northern Maine that ran a neo-Nazi out of town. For example.

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

If your goal is to make things better, wouldn’t you be best positioned to do that in your own community? Moving to a new place with its own unique set of problems is challenging enough as it is. To hope to make a difference there is going to involve learning about local issues. Unless you mean something more generic, like volunteering in soup kitchens, homeless shelters, literacy programs, etc. which are everywhere and always can use extra help.

I’d assumed that people worried about fallout from the US election are worried more about their own situation: their rights and freedoms, personal safety, and economic situation. Moving to Canada could definitely improve some of those issues while exacerbating others. Housing in Canada (especially in big cities like Toronto and Vancouver, but not at all limited to those cities) is generally much less affordable than the U.S. outside of the big cities there (New York, San Francisco, LA, Seattle). Many people who move here find it very challenging unless they already have a bunch of wealth saved up.

[-] lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

All valid points.

[-] EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I thought "yabbut" was some Yiddish slang for a second til I caught the typo.

[-] lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

Oy vey.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Need to spend 3 of last 5 years in Canada

[-] spector@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago

We've just seen that stepping aside is pointless without a popular candidate to step up. Neither the Liberals nor the NDP have anyone.

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago

Come to europe please if youre liberal and you are able to

[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, the paperwork is probably online so you could get a head start, but I wouldn’t get your hopes up for fast bureaucracy nor cutting the line. Plus we just cut down on immigration to play along with your trend.

Don’t hold your breath.

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 2 weeks ago

Not to mention a housing crisis significantly worse than the US from what I hear.

[-] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Depends on where you go and what you do. Foreign investment is a problem in the big cities, small towns saw a surge in prices when everyone left the office for lower costs of living, but they've stabilized. It's not good, not horrible.

[-] WilfordGrimley@linux.community 27 points 2 weeks ago

As a Canadian, please don't come here (unless your reproductive rights/ bodily autonomy are under direct threat)

Sometimes I feel hopeless with our political parties and economy up here and think about moving out of country and then I remember that as a citizen I have a duty and responsibility to remain a voice of reason in my community.

As a US citizen you are afforded real rights that citizens in other countries do not have. For example: In Canada we don't have rights, we have freedoms. Those freedoms can be suspended by the government at any time.

Be the change. Fix your system. Help turn your nation into the example for the global west that it always aspired to.

[-] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Speaking as a Canadian, if you feel like your personal safety and bodily autonomy is threatened in a way that can be improved by moving here, you are welcome. It's called the Charter of RIGHTS and Freedoms. We absolutely have rights.

[-] Spezi@feddit.org 6 points 2 weeks ago

Imagine if Canada built a wall to keep out all the immigrants from their southern border.

[-] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Our system was designed to not be fixable.

[-] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 weeks ago

The number of Americans I meet who think that Canada is just "USA 2" is staggering.

[-] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

it does seem to share a lot of the worse aspects of the U.S., such as dysfunctional national transit systems

[-] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

I could not possibly identify more closely with a comment when it comes to agreement.

[-] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 weeks ago

Isn't it just the closest country to flee to?
Well, that and Mexico

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 weeks ago

They should come to Mexico.

[-] daggermoon@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Are you inviting us?

[-] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

Remember that wall Trump wants to build? It's also to keep Americans in.

[-] daggermoon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Good thing most immigrants arrive via plane. A lot of fucking good a wall does to stop immigration.

[-] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

It's only a matter of time before the travel bans are instituted and anyone from a 'shithole country' is not allowed in.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Just build walls around airports. It's an easy fix.

[-] shani66@ani.social 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That's what I'm considering once they start killing or putting people into camps (might not happen this 4 years, but that is objectively what they are trying to do). I'm learning Japanese and they have been increasing their protection rate of refugees, and Germany's rate is routinely very high (last i checked) so that's an option too.

[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Same

[-] Voyajer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

They won't take you

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

and the 10 people total who actually do are in for a rude awakening once they realize what canadian politics are like

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Showing up in Alberta with your COEXIST bumper sticker and immediately getting shanked by a dozen MAGA heads with Nazi tattoos

[-] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

This query was most popular in Vermont.

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[-] Unicode13051@lemmyf.uk 0 points 2 weeks ago

Canada isn't America. You can't just cross the border and claim to be "undocumented". There's a shit ton of paperwork and it's a lengthy process. If you just jump the border they will deport your ass.