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Ruleminder that the "fact checker" bot lemmy.world has running is now more unpopular than the most popular user is popular (slrpnk.net)

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[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

I like how everyone hates this Bot! I don't really care about this Bot itself, but it's funny how no one likes the Bot and yet they still trying to make it work somehow :P

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

gives off the same 'solution looking for a problem' vibes as corporate marketing around ai lmao

[-] RedC@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

The internet is full of enough bots without making a bot for every dumbass thing on the fediverse, but I guess we really are reddit 2.0

[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago

I honestly don't understand why people are downvoting the media bias bot. From what I've seen, it is pretty accurate. Is it that people see the comment count go up and expect a human comment to interact with, only to be disappointed and then downvote the bot?

If so, I'd suggest Lemmy/Mbin to not could comments made by bot accounts towards the total comment count.

[-] SoJB@lemmy.ml 59 points 1 day ago

It might have something to do with their steadfast insistence on rating literal Zionist propaganda outlets that spread straight up lies that have been debunked hundreds of times over as “extremely credible”.

Just ignoring reality like that tends to hurt the credibility of a credibility meter.

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 day ago

And don’t get me wrong, I have a shit ton of gripes about The Guardian as a trans person, but rating its factual reporting as “mixed” while the NYT is “high” is either incompetence or an agenda. I think they bank on Americans not being familiar with what international papers are reputable.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Absolutely. And also banking on both Americans and non-Americans to be unaware of the extreme pro-zionist, pro-cop, and pro-establishment bias of the NYT as well as the lies they keep spreading as a result.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 1 day ago

Wikipedia's entries note that such outlets aren't much credible.

[+] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It might have something to do with their steadfast insistence on rating literal Zionist propaganda outlets that spread straight up lies that have been debunked hundreds of times over as “extremely credible”.

No, that would have made it the most popular user lemmy has ever seen. I think it was because it was something that no one asked for like that one U2 album.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

You think zionism is extremely popular on Lemmy?? What the fuck have you been smoking?!

[+] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -6 points 1 day ago

You think zionism is extremely popular on Lemmy??

certainly on .world

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Nope. Even on !politics@lemmy.world, the most Neoliberal community on the most Neoliberal instance on Lemmy, pro-zionist comments are few and heavily downvoted, as they should be.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

They're openly hostile to anyone who says that Democrats should not support Netanyahu's genocide.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Not really, only the ones who say that you should withhold support from all Democrats in a binary election system. And anyone who says anything that can possibly be interpreted as such. And quite a few where they have to invent the nonsupport out of whole cloth.

It's not so much that they're Zionists, it's more that many of them are pro-Dem to the point where any dissent against any Dems, especially the leaders, gets the same ferocious reactions as when you criticize the Mango Mussolini amongst his fascist cult.

Or to put it another way: apart from understandable election pragmatism, there's a lot of people there who cares more about pretending that their "team" is perfect than about holding the people supposed to represent them accountable for participating in countless crimes against humanity.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Not really, only the ones who say that you should withhold support from all Democrats in a binary election system

I have never, not a single fucking time, suggested withholding support. That has never fucking mattered.

Or to put it another way: apart from understandable election pragmatism, there’s a lot of people there who cares more about pretending that their “team” is perfect than about holding the people supposed to represent them accountable for participating in countless crimes against humanity.

And I don't give the benefit of the doubt to people who are willing to jettison their humanity just for their "team". Particularly when they're super fucking excited to get Dick Cheney's endorsement.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I completely agree. Just pointing out the technical difference between pro-zionism and harassing/othering anti-zionists for reasons only indirectly related 😉

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

In the next few weeks, we'll see if centrists start abandoning their hostility toward the anti-genocide wing of the party. I don't think they will. I think you've drawn a distinction without a difference.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It's a distinction without much of a practical difference, yes, but I still think that not considering atrocities a deal breaker and being in favor of the atrocities should be distinguished between.

Can't argue as effectively against a wrong conclusion if you don't know the reasons for reaching it, is my point.

And yeah, you're right about them already blaming everyone to the left of Reagan for the pro-Cheney campaign failing to defeat a personally repulsive fascist idiot 🤦

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It’s a distinction without much of a practical difference, yes, but I still think that not considering atrocities a deal breaker and being in favor of the atrocities should be distinguished between.

Agreed until they start being hostile to all criticism of the party, even when the criticism is about genocide support.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

MBFC equates respectable outlets like The Guardian and literal nazi rag Breitbart

It's propaganda masquerading as impartiality

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I honestly don't understand

Could have just stopped there tbh.

From what I've seen, it is pretty accurate

It's not. It's the hobby of a right wing Zionist masquerading as a neutral and authorative arbiter of facts and bias.

For example, it rates The Guardian, Fox News and Breitbart as equally factual.

Is it that people see the comment count go up and expect a human comment to interact with, only to be disappointed and then downvote the bot?

That too, yes. Personally I have it blocked and get annoyed by there being no comments in stead.

If so, I'd suggest Lemmy/Mbin to not could comments made by bot accounts towards the total comment count.

Or just get rid of the biased and counterfactual bias and fact checker.

[-] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

The Bot is wildly inaccurate as other people have pointed out. Even having the idea of potentially one person verifying the veracity of all news media is plainly ludicrous.

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

I don't like it because it's placing an objective statement on a subjective matter. it's also apparently run by a single person (which is understandable given what it needs to do) but I just don't like the vibes that gives off.

I think it'd be a lot better if it just stated objective things (e.g. where their funding comes from, the corporate relationships, country they're based in)

[-] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 13 points 1 day ago

I downvoted it when it showed clear bias, which was most of the comments I saw.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

For me I liked it at first but ended up blocking it after it started doing "more stories like" which revealed that it was clearly there to turn a profit.