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Are you a patient gamer? (kbin.melroy.org)
submitted 20 hours ago by Nytixus@kbin.melroy.org to c/gaming@beehaw.org

There's no magazine on any instance that I see of such a community on the topic matter. To anyone not familiar, a patient gamer is someone who is immune to FOMO, doesn't get caught up or tied up with current modern gaming. Someone who doesn't care that they've beaten a game from 1996 and here it is 2024. Someone who doesn't care that they're still playing games 40, 20 or even 5 years ago on the present day.

I would personally say that I am. I don't have a level of disposable income where I'm throwing down on buying games. I've spent 10 years between 2011 and 2021 wheeling and dealing on game sales. So much that I've piled on over 1,000+ games combined between GOG, Steam, Battle.net and Epic Games.

I do more often than not, play games from so long ago than I do modern games. I'm at a stage in my life where I am noticeably slowing down on gaming in general, I am also finding myself more comforted in what I play and I again can't simply just keep buying newer games. I also don't really care about buying newer games, the time of the present is rich with game sales all day, everyday.

There will always be a time later to buy a game that is ripened for a good sale. So I don't have to worry at all.

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[-] domdanial@reddthat.com 3 points 2 hours ago

I just bought the F.E.A.R bundle from steam a week ago or so, and beat the first game in the series 20 years after release. And other than a fan made .dll patch, it was great. Lacked some depth more modern titles have, but I also noticed how much effort was put into some details that were surprising for its age.

[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 2 points 2 hours ago

The only video game I play is Team Fortress 2, anywhere from 10 to 20 hours a week. So I guess I'm a patient gamer since my favorite game is over 6,000 days old.

Excessively patient. I've noticed there's basically a 50/50 chance of any game I find interesting showing up for free on Epic eventually, so I mean, fine, I'll wait a couple of years to save $60. Why pay for something that'll eventually be given to you, paid for by some vulture capitalist's dragon horde?

I take some of their money, get a free game: win/win.

...at this point, I'm pretty sure my Epic games library is way bigger than my Steam library, simply from the 3-5 free games a month that Epic tosses at you, of which like 1/3rd are actually pretty good.

[-] Nytixus@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 hour ago

What's getting annoying now is that they've been tossing in like packs for freemium games. Gross. That's not a game, guys, that's an attempt to get us to spend more money if we're to like this EXP/Skin pack you've given away.

Yeah I've been noticing that. It's probably a case of it being cheaper for them than games, but I've also noticed they've not yet done a cycle where it's ONLY freemium stuff, at least.

Next week, for example, is an Apex skin and a game. If it was JUST the skin I'd probably be less gruntled, but as it is, I find it hard to get too upset that I'm only getting 1 free game instead of 2.

[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago

It's easy to be patient when you have a backlog of games to go through. Paying full price for a game that still has Denuvo or other forms of DRM just isn't worth it for me. That said, I'm very sad Fantasian will be released with Denuvo soon after years of languishing in Apple Arcade.

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 11 points 9 hours ago

While I admire the ideas behind patient gamers and think it probably works out really well for some people, I personally also enjoy participating in the zeitgeist from time to time. Playing Elden Ring on launch was fantastic - you really felt like you were exploring the world alongside everyone else as you're finding Ashes and weapons that don't even have wiki entries yet.

[-] Ethereal87@beehaw.org 3 points 7 hours ago

I think it's fair to say I'm more patient than I was. Having kids has slowed me down on playing games constantly, but I've also drifted towards more indie games and away from big tentpole $60-$70 releases. Some games will be a day one purchase based on enjoying their past work(s), like Tactical Breach Wizards and Steamworld Heist 2, and the cost barrier ends up lower. The last time I went for the big AAA game on or close to launch was Hogwarts Legacy, and that was mostly for the wife since she loves all things Harry Potter.

With the sheer amount of games being released and being able to find just about anything you could want, there's not really a need to be in on the hotness. There are plenty of games to enjoy while those other ones get cheaper and cheaper. The launch day excitement/rush of discovery is always nice though and I do wish there was some kind of a "book club but for games" where a group could go in and have a fresh experience with a game that's already released.

[-] RagnarokOnline@programming.dev 12 points 16 hours ago

I haven’t played Balder’s Gate 3 yet, so I’d say I’m patient.

[-] ursakhiin@beehaw.org 1 points 7 hours ago

I finished it 3 times, so I'd say I'm pretty patient.

[-] RagnarokOnline@programming.dev 1 points 5 hours ago

Dang, you are patient!

[-] altasshet@lemmy.ca 6 points 16 hours ago

Same! Waiting for it not to cost 80$ Canadian... If it goes on sale for half, I'll buy it I guess

[-] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 6 points 14 hours ago

BG3 is self-published by Larian. Which sadly means you're unlikely to see a 50% discount or above.

Well, at least not anytime in the near future.

It was 10% off at one point. So maybe 20% isn't out of the question.

[-] Nytixus@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 hour ago

Baldur's Gate 3 is still a bit of a recent game, even if it's a year old. Normally games like it, take about 3 - 5 years before we start seeing drastic sales.

Now games that are over 10 years old and still being 10% off? Fuck out of here with that.

[-] domdanial@reddthat.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Witcher 3 was also self published, and it came down to 70% off after a few years.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 4 points 9 hours ago

Well, at least not anytime in the near future.

I think you underestimate how patient some of us can be... 😉

[-] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 2 points 8 hours ago

Not at all. And more power to you for that.

I'm just saying it's gonna be a while yet. 😉

[-] thepiguy@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

In terms of pve, I am not patient at all. I would have not made it through elden ring without bleed. If I have to go through a 15 hour long quest to increase my efficiency in something by 1.5%, sign me up.

[-] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 4 points 14 hours ago

I'd say I'm fairly patient. It does depend on the title and how it's handled.

If I heard Tim Cain & Leonard Boyarsky was spearheading a new Fallout, I'd be hard pressed not to buy on release.

If, however, the game is exclusive in anyway, timed or otherwise, it's instantly blacklisted and I refuse to buy it at all. (I have an array of chips on my shoulders, I know)

But other than that specific scenario, I can wait for a good sale, no problem.

[-] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 20 points 20 hours ago
[-] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

One of those is dead.

One is blocked by OP's instance.

One is hosted on an instance that more than a few people avoid.

One is nearly empty, but maybe worth joining and starting some discussion? !patientgamers@lemmy.world

[-] Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 hours ago

Lemmy.world is blocked by beehaw as well...

[-] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Ah, so it is. I wonder when that happened. I guess .world might have outgrown beehaw's ability to make up for spotty moderation.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago

The SJW one is fine, further centralization on LW is probably not desirable

[-] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 3 points 18 hours ago

how can you tell one is blocked by an instance?

[-] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 17 hours ago
[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 15 hours ago

It's a damn shame because I really like beehaw, it feels nice and cozy but they block too many instances. If it wasn't for that I'd use it as my main. I hope they don't block sdf. I like being able to comment and see post from beehaw

[-] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I'm pretty sure they don't block sdf. That's where I am, and I've had several interactions with Beehaw folks while here. :)

Fun fact: Beehaw and sdf are among the few well-known instances that don't hand their users' traffic (all their activity on Lemmy) over to Cloudflare.

[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 9 hours ago

Yeah they don't. I'm just saying I hope they don't in the future.

I did not know that. The more I learn about sdf the more I love it.

[-] preussischblau@lemmy.ca 16 points 20 hours ago

!patientgamers@sh.itjust.works

[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 5 points 17 hours ago

Oh yeah. I’m still regularly playing Skate 3 and making video clips from it. I mix it up though. I play tons of old console and PC games (Steam Deck), and occasionally get into a headspace where I dive back into retro games. N64, NES, Genesis/Master System, etc.

On the flip side, I’m playing Veilguard right now. I usually don’t buy games on release day, but I make exceptions. The other exception I made was Elden Ring and I have nearly 400 hours into that. No regrets.

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 6 points 20 hours ago

Yes and no. Some games you just cannot be patient about, as part of the whole selling point is the community in the moment. For example, the way in which hype went for Helldivers 2 pretty much necessitated that if you weren't part of the community in the first 3 months then you missed out on a lot of "storytelling".

This would go for most multiplayer games. Single player games though have a lot more freedom to be late to the game, so to speak ;)

Otherwise, for me personally it usually just comes down to the IP. Monster Hunter is my go-to, so it's sort of a no-brainer for me to go for the new game as they come out barring any major issues or personal life events, I get them. I did buy Cyberpunk on release, however that was more because I wanted to see what my new 3080 could do and I was looking for a solid single player game, and I didn't encounter nearly as many problems as other players did. But, I haven't gotten the DLC for it because I haven't been looking for that kind of game again yet.

Being ready for the game is another aspect I take into consideration, Dragon's Dogma 2 was something I was pretty highly anticipating, but after hearing about the release issues and remembering what DD:DA was like to replay, I realized that I wasn't ready for it again at release. However now it's on sale and I've been out of gaming for a few months outside of small old games on my Steam Deck once in a while. I picked it up and I've been enjoying it.

So I think patient gaming really comes down to having the understanding of the social aspect the game is trying to sell - sometimes it's marketing (2077) and sometimes it's the nature of a game that's fun to play with other people. Getting games like Phasmaphobia, Dale & Dawsons, they aren't really going to be that fun if you're multiple years late to the game. Similarly, if your friend just finds out about the game late, it's just a smaller niche, being your friend group instead of random people in public lobbies, at which point you can expect to play that game a handful of times before your group drops it forever, lol.

[-] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 hour ago

There's also the kind of games where you can't wait, with the online-only ones, once the servers shut down, it's bye-bye forever.

[-] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 3 points 18 hours ago

Very much so (and there's at least one patient gamers community around, because I've posted to one).

The only advantage I can see to playing a game on release is taking part in that first rush of interest, but I'm antisocial enough that that doesn't appeal to me anyway, so I'm not missing anything there.

Beyond that, I think playing a game at least a year or so after release has all of the advantages. The initial flurry of absolute love vs. absolute hate has died down so it's easier to get a broad view of the quality, the game is more stable, the price is better, dlc and expansions are out and generally packaged with the game, and best of all, in this current era, I can most likely buy it from GOG and actually have the full game, DRM-free, on my system.

And there are a bajillion good games out there, just waiting for me to discover them.

[-] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I'm almost 60 hours into factorio's space age expansion that just came out out 10 days ago. However I have over 2500 hours in the base game.

That being said, factorio is notorious for never once having gone on sale.

The only other game I play launch day for is path of exile expansions.

Everything else I buy later on sale.

[-] overload@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Factorio goes up in price over time, so now is always the best time to buy Factorio.

Been meaning to check out the expansion, good?

[-] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 1 points 35 minutes ago

If you enjoyed the base game, you'll like the expansion. It's a lot more content with tons of new things to deal with and optimize.

[-] frank@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 hours ago

Quite good. Sans any real spoilers:

Space is a lot more accessible in the early game, and in space ~~no one can hear you scream ~~ there's a lot more complications than normal, including really turning factory planning and scaling on its head on one planet.

Really mixed it up, much more than the SE mod did (which was good, but just felt like scaling more than unique challenges)

[-] overload@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 hours ago

Awesome, I was sure they wouldn't disappoint.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 points 8 hours ago

It's that pricing model which has consistently kept me away. Lots of people like it, and it's supposed to be really fun, but it's not the only fun factory builder out there.

I'd rather get a good deal, and I've never (re)played a solo game for anywhere close to the thousands of hours some people have played Factorio. I might be missing out, but I can buy an entire bundle of games for that price and still have money leftover.

[-] overload@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 hours ago

It's not a $60 or $70 game, but certainly is better than most of the AAA offerings of late. Maybe think of it like it's a full priced game that's always on sale? You do you though. I thought it was well worth the asking price.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 points 2 hours ago

And that's what some people have said. I'll play the demo tonight, but even for lots of fun, I can think of other ways to spend $35, as that's a large sum for me.

But who knows? Maybe it will knock my socks off.

[-] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 2 points 34 minutes ago* (last edited 33 minutes ago)

I always rate my games on price per hour played, rather than just total cost.

Factorio is one of my cheapest games ever.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 hours ago

I'd say, I'm primarily a very low volume gamer, so I don't play a lot of games, and if I do, I don't play them for long. And that certainly makes it easy to look at the news of a game releasing and to think, yeah, that's probably neat, but if I'm buying another game then it'd be Undertale or Baba Is You or such, and it definitely doesn't look as neat as those...

[-] aniki@lemmings.world 1 points 18 hours ago

I have been enjoying the original console I designed and built myself running a raspberry pi 5 and a fully built and compiled retropie that can crank out some dolphin and redream with full 60fps. I have plenty 90s gaming I need to catch up on.

For everything moderately modern, I have a steam deck. If it doesn't or cannot run on my retropie or my deck then I'll wait till the next hardware refresh. If it takes half a decade, all the better.

[-] DdCno1@beehaw.org 1 points 2 hours ago

Are you using your Deck only as a portable system or also with a monitor or TV? I've done this a few times, but not very often, mostly because I rarely see the need (but I have a PC as well, so my situation isn't the same).

[-] Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 18 hours ago

Most of the time yes. I've been playing the shit out of Dragons Dogma 1 lately and loving it.

That being said, some games are definitely on-release buys, like the upcoming Monster Hunter Wilds

[-] missingno@fedia.io 1 points 19 hours ago

Some games I'm excited enough for to want to spend full price on release. Some games I'll wait for a sale on. Just depends on the game.

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