YarrMatey

Good point, landlords should be 86'd not 69'd.

maybe don’t fuck like a bunny with so many people

This is the weird slut-shaming I was referring to.

You can go fuck all you want, but please do not spread any diseases and do not get pregnant if you can’t afford a kid in the first place

Women cannot control whether they get pregnant or not. No birth control is 100% effective. Even the high percentages you see are 'perfect use' and mean for every 100 women, 10 women actually get pregnant with 'typical use' while using their birth control (Source). The higher effective ones are things like the IUD and arm implant, devices that are expensive and come with their own risks but are also not 100% effective; although they're the closest you can get. Women have all sorts of reasons for picking their chosen birth control, some cannot handle hormones at all. Even I've been wrecked by various birth controls. You are effectively saying sex is only for procreation and nothing else.

If you do abortion then, it is clearly unethical, no matter what.

There is no reason to judge a woman's choice to abort as ethical or unethical. None. As in, it is offensive you are suggesting this. Shit happens. Most abortions are not due to rape and even knowing this, it does not fucking matter. The fact you assume she is lazy is atrocious. It isn't documented why she was pregnant because it's none of your business!

And no, knowing she was pregnant does not help determine how far along she is unless she had sex and then never had sex again after that and then caught on to her missed period (assuming she has regular periods, I personally do not even before I started birth control). C'mon, please web search this because women are not identical birthing machines.

Some women feel early pregnancy symptoms within a week or two of getting pregnant, while other women may go months with no pregnancy symptoms. Maybe your symptoms are subtle enough that you don't recognize them. Some women have a cryptic pregnancy, which means they don't realize they're expecting until late in pregnancy. According to the Cleveland Clinic, about 1 in 475 women don't know they're pregnant until about 20 weeks, and 1 in 2,500 don't know they're expecting until they're in labor. Source

This is such a bad take. I guess I must be 3 years pregnant /s. You have no idea what it is like to be a woman and living in poverty, let alone one that is also a mother and cannot afford another kid. Slut-shaming is misogynistic as well, women are not mechanical clocks and we do not freak out over every missed period. Please reflect on this. The problem is capitalism once again, but you care more about a woman and a miscarriage instead of why she was in this predicament in the first place.

I thought this was a drawing of a sim at first, the shoes and the dress were almost exactly what a modded sim looks like (alpha clothing).

Yes, I will personally keep doing this because more community feedback is good imo. And no worries, I still think even this needs more than one workshop before a governance thread haha.

It seems the responses to this are divided between ban trolls so they do not scare people off the site or let users get trolled and decide for themselves to stay and block trolls or leave the site. Perhaps we can get block lists going?

I personally think trolling is if someone is saying stuff JUST to piss people off and ragebait

I don't think what I do is trolling

We have legitimate trolls that piss people off and ragebait for fun, that is who I am talking about. But I also agree that if someone says something that they know upsets people and does it anyway, even after being told how their behavior affects others, they would be a troll to continue. For instance, I have not named names so they don't get bullied for being called out and it is up to them if they want to come forward. I have lost count of the number of times I left lemmy because I didn't want to deal with the negativity and inaction. I mean this second quote alone is something I've read too many times like copy-pasted lmao

thinking all opinions should be allowed

Yeah, no... I'm not into that at all. A place that welcomes all, including the intolerant, gets run by them. Why shouldn't we try to cultivate a space where many people, even the ones society neglects, feel welcome and contribute to positively? I have too many parts of me that get attacked (woman, lgbt+, racial minority, etc.) for no real reason. We shouldn't have sexists, racists, -phobes, and the fash. Period.

Omg you beat me to it, I loved the chao gardens in SA and SA2.

I cannot see how mods could decide if my argument has a scientific basis without me submitting my medical history, which creates the risk of being silenced for "bad faith arguments" when i wont do that.

I would not ban for this. You don't need to send your medical history. I have not looked through your posts/comments but please don't think you would be banned for a medical issue you have no control over.

I really like this approach and have brought it up with others. We have a warning system btw, I've used it a few times and it would be great for telling people how many times they have done X before more extreme measures are taken. Before you were either PM'd if more info was needed or temp banned.

I would not ban you or your carnivore community. I may be wrong (and honestly don't feel like scrutinizing your history rn), but you don't troll. We will never agree on veganism and your advocation of eating mostly meat, I am a moral/ethical vegan first and the rest of it is a bonus. While there were some seriously questionable things that got c/carnivore banned from .world, the problematic mod is gone afaik and I already have your communities blocked (as a user). We would be able to ban people who intentionally antagonize and troll vegans, and that would be a bonus for anyone tired of the hostility. Do you go into threads essentially antagonizing vegans with vegan bingo, because that is the problem here. If people wanted your community blocked and to be more aligned with our instance being more pro-vegan, that would be a different discussion.

Trolling in general should be moderated, but the rules shouldn't differ from topic to topic. If a discussion is good it is good, if it is bad it is bad.

How would you define a troll and whether someone is speaking in good faith? It's very vibes based. I think someone bringing up plant's feelings or their suffering is probably trolling (does actually happen even in this thread), saying they'll eat double the hamburgers out of spite, even going as far to say vegans shouldn't harm bacteria (taken from a comic that was posted recently) is trolling. Right now, bringing these things up to antagonize (even after haven been told these things are antagonistic) is not something that can be actioned against.