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[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 119 points 11 months ago (2 children)

YT Exec - /rips massive line of coke off Intern's ass/ - "Remove View Count"

YT Engineer - "But Sir, users will hate that. It will actively make the user experience worse"

YT Exec - "That's the goddamn point!"

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Intern - "You could at least give me reacharound while you're doing that"

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 96 points 11 months ago

sounds like another job for the return youtube dislikes guy

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 76 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Seems like a sure way to lose my engagement. I don't understand what Google thinks they're getting out of this except for flooding you with more ads between video recommendations at the cost of people actually watching anything and using the damn website.

Between removing the dislike counter, a defect search bar that shoves garbage down your throat, recommendations of decreasing quality on my end and shorts (which I hesitantly gave a try but ultimately lost all interest in because it remained mostly low effort content despite my efforts to train my algorithm), this is just another reason why I find myself spending more time enjoying other things lately.

Maybe I am just out of touch, but I smell another bubble bursting when I look at how enshittified all major web services are simultaneously becoming.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Maybe I am just out of touch, but I smell another bubble bursting when I look at how enshittified all major web services are simultaneously becoming.

It feels like something has to give, right?

We have YouTube, Reddit, Twitter, and more just racing to enshittify like I can't even believe, Google Search is racing to destroy the internet, yet they're also at the 'critical mass' of 'too big to fail' and shoved out all their major competitors already (other than Discord I guess).

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 73 points 11 months ago (4 children)

In 5 years:

Youtube tests small ads in the top corner during video playback.

In 10 years:

Youtube tests small increase in size of well established corner ads.

In 15 years:

Youtube graciously allows video playback inbetween ads

[–] SouravSatvaya@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

In 20 years, "YouTube was an online video sharing platform...."

I doubt they can make it to the next 20 years, the way they are controlling everything.

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"We can sell 80 percent of the screen before inducing seizures!"

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[–] sag@lemm.ee 72 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Next What???? Removing Title, Only Thumbnail.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's currently a race-to-the-bottom in big IT & tech, where they don't look how they get you to like them but how much they can get away with, without repelling most of their userbase.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 17 points 11 months ago

In this case YouTube can do literally anything they want due to the lack of real alternatives. Hosting videos for free, for anyone (and any number of viewers) to watch, for free, is rather predictably not a very profitable business model. If you want to see what it takes to actually be profitable with such a model, look at the average free porn site. Extremely intrusive ads everywhere. If you don't want to pay, and ads are the only revenue, advertisers are the customer, not you.

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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 64 points 11 months ago

YouTube/Google and hiding data from the end-user, name a better duo.

[–] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 57 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Not to mention their “1080p” streams look worse than 2013 480p streams. The site is a dumpster fire.

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[–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 54 points 11 months ago

Return youtube view counts, coming soon

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 36 points 11 months ago

this would essentially kill my method of viewing videos on the platform, this isn't a boost to interaction they think it will be, it will ultimately result in me watching less videos as I won't have the ability to decipher trash from good, so I'll just stick with content creators that I am used to and no longer branch out like I currently do.

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Good thing we have Youtube alternatives. The two biggest ones are Odysee & Rumble. Also we have Peertube. The problem with Peertube is people don't use it. So it haves less content on it.

If you're going to watch Youtube, use a Frontend. For same reason Privacy Guides don't have Grayjay on it.

[–] downdaemon@lemmy.ml 33 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Odyssey is all fascists and crypto bros

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 39 points 11 months ago

Rumble isn't any better. It's where my dad gets his COVID conspiracy material after folks got kicked off other platforms.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 11 months ago

Isn't rumble the same? Lul what the fuck is going on with the world.

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[–] alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who makes these retarded decisions?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 21 points 11 months ago
[–] Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

As someone who tries to regularly post videos on YouTube I think this would help me, since I'm sure many people (including me, unfortunately) avoid low view count videos.

But I can absolutely understand why you wouldn't want it hidden. I'm sure this will lead to major misinformation clickbaiting (as if that isn't already a problem!), but I believe that the view count will still be visible on the view page.

Is YouTube doing it with small creators actually in mind? Who knows, other than them?

Edit: I do want to clarify that I think hiding the date it was posted is just strange and would probably only lead to problems

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I don’t like this idea for the opposite reason. I'm one of the people who are suspicious of videos with millions of views since most of them look manufactured. We all use view counts to gauge if a video is something we’re after, probably in more ways than we can come up with.

If it gives you any encouragement - I’m not discouraged by view counts. I know I like niche stuff and give small channels a try. It’s a chance at having more genuine interaction. As long as a video is not off-putting due to bad diction or very bad production then I’m not going to back out and see what it is about. This can work to your advantage too.

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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don't understand why they on such a self destruct path?! I already barely use this fucking platform anymore because of how shitty it has become already, and now they want to bait me into watching some low views garbage on top of all that? WHY?!

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because when you get pissed off at one shitty video and click off it to find a better one, that's free real estate in which to double your ads.

And what are you gonna do? Go to Peertube? YouTube is too gigantic to have a real competitor no matter how much we try. It is a beast so massive and bloated at this point that we just can't kill it without legislative interference. And Google knows damn well that they're basically the only game in town so they aren't afraid of significant user backlash.

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[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Lmfao, fuck it, why not remove titles, tags and the searchbar too if you only want them to watch the videos your algo hand picks.

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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 21 points 11 months ago

Time for Peertube

[–] Computerchairgeneral@fedia.io 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thanks Youtube, I hate it. Like I can see some arguments for taking away the view counter, even if I think it's a bad decision. But the date the video was uploaded? Who does that even help? I guess Youtubers will either need to start properly dating their videos or we'll just have to use context clues to figure out when a video was uploaded.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

But the date the video was uploaded? Who does that even help?

There's gaming content that expires within a month, especially with frequent balance and other game changes, like with League of Legends. I won't watch a video that's weeks old because what's being featured probably doesn't work anymore after a patch.

[–] brap@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (8 children)

How about you test marking videos as watched across devices so I don’t have the same shit pushed back at me all the time.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 15 points 11 months ago

HOW ABOUT YOU STOP SHOWING ME ALREADY WATCHED VIDEOS IN GENERAL?! Why fill my home feed with shit I've seen already? I literally have to click (...), click (not interested), click (why?), click (I've already seen the video) FOR EVER SINGLE VIDEO I EVER WATCHED ON YT.

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[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Why? Is everything going to shit? Like counts, view counts, dislikes .. I suppose it won't change anything for me on reVanced, but still.. why?

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

In the future you’ll pay $900/mo to stare at a blank page.

And you’ll have to because all the free sites are entirely ads.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 16 points 11 months ago

Ok, this one is really stupid. Dislikes? Ok. Views? Fuck all the way off, Google.

[–] Rob200@lemmings.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You know why they might be hiding upload dates? My theory is, Youtube doesn’t really want you looking at new stuff. (Very apparent by the algorithm) they want you looking at specific news stories, and specific content but not constantly seeking new uploads from independents.

But that is just a theory a plain theory. Thanks for watching.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 27 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I hate how now when I watch a bunch of videos from a creator, my YouTube feed ends up only having that creators videos, like yeah I'm enjoying this person, but I do like to watch other things as well.

It feels like I'm being forced into an echo chamber.

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