vonbaronhans

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[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 1 points 1 week ago

I mean go for it I guess.

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nah, it would have to be the Fox News style full court press deception to have the intended effect.

Most people would be convinced something is true if a huge swathe of people they trust say it's true. (Myself included. I just try my best to vet trustworthy sources to begin with.)

Fox News accomplishes this by getting you to distrust all other sources and then serve you a variety of "charismatic personalities" all parroting the same propaganda. This is how they cultivate false consensus.

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think I disagree with any individual point you're making. But I'm still getting the sense that we're focusing on what won't work rather than what possibly could work. It seems like you're opposed to bottom up approaches (worker coops, etc, in a market system) and also top down approaches to regulate the edge cases.

I don't have the time to really sit and think through possibilities, but I'll simply say I think a current failure to think how socialism could work in a market economy does not necessarily rule out the possibility.

I appreciate the conversation regardless. You've given me a good few things to chew on.

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I would imagine every crew has a wide range of ages already. They're not all gonna retire at the same time. Plus, whatever happens to the business would be a democratic decision by all workers, however they choose to structure that democratic process.

If you think that sort of process would fail, I'm not sure why you would support socialism at all.

That's not a judgment on you, to be clear. I'm relatively new to socialism, at least in terms of thinking of it in practical terms. Maybe there's a role for a bigger regulatory body to play in that system to ensure capital continues to be owned by the people who work with that capital (or owned by the broader community in which it resides).

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 4 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I don't understand. Why couldn't the teams that make the machines, the crews that make the steel, all the way down, all be worker owned companies in a market economy?

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 26 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

I was under the impression that you can still have a market economy under socialism. That is, you can have workers own the means of production while still buying and selling goods through fairly normal means.

But maybe I'm misunderstanding?

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 11 points 2 weeks ago

^ this.

They did replace "desu" with DEATH, but blurb is right about the rest.

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 9 points 3 weeks ago

Nah fuck that.

We need disaffected voters. Progressives will actually get them motivated. I don't give a shit about demographics. Get a progressive, any progressive, up there.

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 3 points 3 weeks ago

It sure fuckin is, bud!

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Correlations that hold while controlling or holding constant other variables do contribute to the likelihood of causation, though.

That's literally how scientific statistics are done.

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Just to clarify, your feelings of resentment are valid no matter what. And you can and should address those feelings. I would just advise that if you want to address the subject with your parents directly, try not to come in too hot. If you have a therapist or someone you trust, maybe run your approach by them first and see if they have any helpful feedback. Best of luck!

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 45 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I can't speak to your exact circumstances, but I would caution against judging your parents too harshly. At least not until you've had more experience as a parent.

You might not be able to imagine doing wrong by your kid now, but we are only human. Parents fail all the time, even when we try our best. We hit limits. We lose our patience. We have bad days.

You need to ensure you allow yourself some grace as a parent. And that grace should extend to other parents, possibly including your own.

But if you were genuinely mistreated, abused, or neglected... then I think those feelings of resentment will only grow more certain over the next 5 or so years as your relationship with your kid puts your relationship with your parents in stark relief.

All to say, I wouldn't rush to condemn. Offer yourself and other parents some grace. Be ready to possibly confront some really uncomfortable feelings as you reevaluate your own childhood experiences in light of your parenting journey.

Stay safe out there!

 

Dad here. I love putting my kid to bed. For nearly a year she only wanted mommy to do it. But she asks for me mostly now, and I've been soaking it up. I love reading books. I love singing her to sleep. I love the little tired conversations.

I don't love all the attempts to delay bedtime... but we've got a decent routine that's taken most of the fights out of it.

I just wanted to share while I'm still feeling the glow of a successful putdown.

I hope y'all feel that joy when you can. Stay safe out there.

 

Unsure if this is the kind of jazz y'all like, but here ya go.

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