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The ballot drop boxes in Washington and Oregon both have fire suppression systems that are designed to activate when the temperature inside reaches a certain point, coating ballots inside with a fire-suppressing powder.

For unknown reasons, the system failed to prevent the destruction of hundreds of ballots in Vancouver, just across the Columbia River from Portland.

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[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 86 points 1 month ago

This is the Republican plan to steal the election. When does the civil war start? I give it 6 weeks before the first casualties pile in.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 71 points 1 month ago
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[-] knightly@pawb.social 30 points 1 month ago

Are you kidding? Election day is a week away and an election clerk in San Antonio already got punched for telling somebody to take off his MAGA hat. I'm surprised nobody's been shot already.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Assuming they catch the shitbags, I see no need for further violence.

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 77 points 1 month ago

Courts should fast track this one to make an example of them. Arrest them and sentence them this week.

[-] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

No, you want to wish them a complete and fair due process. Keep them behind bars in accordance with the maximum of sentencing guidelines.

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[-] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 75 points 1 month ago

There need to be extraordinary penalties for threatening election workers, intimidating voters, or destroying ballots. How about a minimum 20 year sentence to start?

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

20 years?

In many countries you get the death sentence for treason like this.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So like Russia, China, North Korea... maybe these aren't the best role models.

I'd much prefer a rehabilitation system where they tried to make the arsonist a productive member of society and maybe bar them from whatever media was instigating the demand he take action.

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[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

I'm sorry, have you seen the j6 idiots?

Do you honestly believe they can count to 20 even after taking off their socks?

You can't beat stupid, you can't scare stupid, we need to just make voting one of those things they can't get to easily, ie make the boxes like bank drops, or some other physical means.

Rednecks gonna redneck.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I was thinking life in prison, and we haul them out every year during election season to talk about why they attacked ballot boxes, what they were trying to do, and if their life was worth throwing away for it.

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[-] sarcasticsunrise@lemmy.world 75 points 1 month ago

I hate that the Orwellian thought of ballot boxes requiring armed guards just entered my brain, because it just did. It goes against everything democracy is supposed to be, but this is where American fascism has led my thoughts to rot

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago

With a sufficiently not-fucking-around response to the terrorists who did it, betcha won't need guards.

But America is gonna wrist slap nazis and say please.

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

You can't prosecute the meth out of a redneck, America has tried for decades.

There are people who have the basic mammalian capability for aversion association, and people who don't, these morons are no more capable of learning than ants.

Don't bother trying to set an example, just use enforced attrition.

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[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

It's not really orwellian.

It's Oregon, the number of methed up rednecks without shit to do is unimaginable.

Orwellian would be if it were planned, this is just old-fashioned redneck stupidity.

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[-] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

This is terrorism.

[-] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Just an FYI, all of these Ballot/Mail Box fires will be pointed to when trump attempts his second coup when he loses. I cant believe I'm casually talking about a future coup attempt in my country...

This will give a fake appearance of legitimacy to his claims. I'm worried...

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[-] Assman@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 month ago

What are these things doing outside? I don't get that. Put them inside the courthouse, post office, fire station, a million other places they'd be safe from arson.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The problem lies in that people need to access them outside working hours due to their own work schedules, which is ultimately the point of these things. Granted, a fire station, ~~police station~~, or even a hospital lobby would be better than outside.

Edit: ok, maybe not a police station, but y'all get my point

[-] Skydancer@pawb.social 25 points 1 month ago

Police station would be a terrible choice. People who aren't able to vote on election day skew poor, black, brown, and/or immigrant - exactly the groups who would be (rightly) afraid of entering a police station.

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[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Little bit concerned about a police station, both because people might feel intimidated, and votes could get 'lost'.

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[-] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

I used a 24hr box for my ballot because I have a job at "normal" hours.

[-] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago
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[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

I hope that vehicle ends up in a trash compactor with the occupant inside

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

I hope they catch the guy alive and we prosecute the asshole and make a public example of this guy who is most likely Republican.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

I would bet up to $1k that this guy is Republican, but I don't actually care what party they belong to. Make an example of them.

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[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Waiting for the car's MAGA owner to be arrested and prosecuted. Probably expecting an eventual pardon from Bonespurs. Good luck wit dat.

[-] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 16 points 1 month ago

I was actually surprised that more ballot boxes weren't being firebombed; I didn't know they had fire suppression systems and am glad to hear it (and also slightly shocked that they're necessary; chalk another point on the board for we've failed as a society and as a species).

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The armed forces have been voting by mail for decades (over a century).

I love the cognitive dissonance of "patriots" who mouth platitudes for those who've served, while actively working against the same mechanisms for civilians. Brain morons.

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[-] HappyTimeHarry@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago

Ah yes wiping out hundreds of democrat (and some non Democrat) votes in two of the bluest cities in the north west will surely have an impact on the election.

[-] doc@fedia.io 37 points 1 month ago

The Washington district that includes Vancouver has one of the most contested House races in the country this year.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

Glusencamp-Perez ran on opposing Biden and working with Republicans.

Kent ran on opposing Perez for being a Democrat.

Absolutely insane.

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

Hey I just learned about her. Sinema 2.0!

[-] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

One article I read said that the representative race was much closer. It might not affect the president, but could affect other positions.

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[-] Chozo@fedia.io 12 points 1 month ago

fire suppression systems that are designed to activate when the temperature inside reaches a certain point

For unknown reasons, the system failed to prevent the destruction of hundreds of ballots

I don't think it's an "unknown" reason; the system requires a fire to have already been lit in order to activate. It's fire a suppression system, not fire prevention.

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[-] auzy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Gee. I wonder if it's a right winger. As per normal, it's totally unlikely...

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Vancouver?? I told yall that foreigners were voting in our elections!!!!

/s very much needed, as some moron on Facebook is 100% sincerely saying the same thing right now.

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

Not clear that vehicle has been ID'd from that story. Says Volvo, but no specifics known. Is ID from another source?

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

Do you expect them to tell you the license plate number? What would make you feel better?

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[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

This seems like an election fraud crime done by a poor person, so there will likely be consequences.

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