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'Unreal': Massive pushback after Trump 'admitted he stiffed his workers' at latest rally (www.rawstory.com)

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[-] Vorticity@lemmy.world 23 points 14 hours ago

I despise Trump. I want him to lose. This kind of "journalism" needs to die so that the real stories about him don't get buried by half truths and lies. Trump says enough shitty, fashist things that we don't need to twist his words like this.

Trump said that he hates paying people overtime so, if they're getting close to overtime, he brings other people in. He does what every business does and implements shifts. He didn't say that he screws people out of overtime pay for time they worked. He avoids overtime pay by brining in a new shift of workers.

How often Trump stiffs his employees and contractors for real is a good story. This story is essentially a lie that attempts to portray Trump badly but really only makes "the left" look bad.

Don't lie and ruin the credibility of left-leaning media. Use the real ammo that Trump drops like bread crumbs everywhere he goes.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world -1 points 14 hours ago

Him screwing over workers IS journalism that works against him. His bullshit "man of the people" shtick and trying to reform the GOP as pro-labor is in direct contrast to him screwing people over.

Christ, you need to take a break.

[-] Vorticity@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago

I know that he does screw over employees, but how is that the case in this circumstance? He is sending workers home before they hit overtime and bringing in a different shift of workers. Every business does that. Every business attempts to minimize the amount of overtime that they pay. In fact, that's the point of overtime laws, to disincentivize working employees too many hours.

I'm not defending him as a person. I'm saying this is shitty journalism that just gives him something additional to point at when he says that the media lies about him. We shouldn't be giving him that ammo.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world -2 points 14 hours ago

The American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations, the national trade union center known as AFL-CIO, said in response, "This isn’t a gaffe and he didn’t just misspeak — Trump said this in Michigan on Friday and Pennsylvania today. Trump cut overtime for millions of Americans as President — and his Project 2025 agenda will do it again."

That says it all. It's right there in the article. Now, if you're saying its "totally legal, and totally cool" what he's doing and admitting to, then that's your own opinion. A fuck ton of other absolutely hate it and think it's bullshit, which validates this reporting being out there.

[-] Vorticity@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Again, let me preface this by saying that I do not like Trump and think that he is terrible for the country. I'm just saying that he says enough awful shit that we don't need to twist the truth or lie.

Okay, two things here. First, the statement that Trump "cut overtime for millions of Americans as President" has been rated as "Mostly False" by PolitiFact.

PolitiFact ruling: Mostly False. When contacted for comment, the Harris-Walz campaign pointed to news articles showing that former President Barack Obama proposed to extend overtime pay eligibility to more workers, but a judge blocked it in November 2016, just before it was slated to take effect. The Trump administration did not challenge the judge’s ruling and instead set its own overtime rule, which extended overtime pay to millions fewer people than Obama’s rule would have done.

The Obama rule was not in effect at the time Trump took office, so Trump’s administration did not cut an existing benefit.

Second, that's not even what this article is about. This is about him saying the following:

I know a lot about overtime. I hated to give overtime. I hated it. I'd get ... I shouldn't say this ... I'd get other people in. I wouldn't pay. I hated it.

So, what does he say there? He hated paying overtime so he would bring in new people to take over the work. He didn't stiff them. He sent them home after working a full shift and brought in new people to take over.

Now, he may have (probably did) stiff workers in other ways. This is not evidence of that.

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 2 points 11 hours ago

Now, he may have (probably did) stiff workers in other ways.

He had an immense reputation for this for his whole career as a "businessman". ^[1] ^[2]

[-] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 15 points 13 hours ago

bUt He’S sUcH A gOoD bUsSiNeSsmAn!

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago

Somehow his supporters will believe he only means no overtime pay for black people, not good patriots like them.

[-] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 48 points 19 hours ago

He's notorious for not paying people. He purposely chose small contractors to help build and do work on his properties, then would say they did terrible work and he wasn't going to pay them. He knew they wouldn't be able to afford to take him to court to get the money owed.

[-] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 21 points 19 hours ago

He's a successful businessman, he does indeed run the country exactly like he runs his businesses: stiff the people doing the work for him, divert the funds towards his nepotism clique, bleed the company dry until bankruptcy, and move on to do the exact same thing again because when you're a star, they let you do it.

[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 53 points 20 hours ago

Trump: I WILL FUCK YOU ALL UP THE ASS!

crowd: CHEERS

Trump: I THINK YOU'RE ALL TRASH AND I WISH I COULD THROW YOU ALL IN A GIANT POOL OF ACID

crowd: ERUPTS WITH APPROVAL

Trump: I WILL EAT YOUR CHILDREN

crowd: CHEERS WILDLY AND THROW BABIES IN THE AIR

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 15 points 19 hours ago

You jest but make the "you" illegal immigrants and this becomes his "I Have a Dream" speech.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 17 points 18 hours ago

Man of the people. Such a populist, this elitist billionaire is....

[-] s3p5r@lemm.ee 40 points 22 hours ago

List of sources quoted in this list of "push back:

A group called "Republicans against Trump" which seems to just be this twitter account with a buymeacoffee link which posted "Republicans could choose this man to represent them, instead they preferred a corrupt racist buffoon with no morals. The party deserves a humiliating defeat in 2020." In May 2020, making me suspect they're not actually Republican or possibly a group at all.
"A Republican accountability group called American Bridge 21st Century" which is described on Wikipedia as "a liberal American Super PAC that supports Democratic candidates and opposes Republican candidates.".
The American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations
A "popular liberal commentator"
A Democratic Representative
The White House political director

So if you were hoping for actual consequences from his base or even just someone new and noteworthy criticizing him, this is not the article for you. I'm glad the Trade Unions are going to spread the word though, that will be a good thing.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 17 points 20 hours ago

I despise Donald as much as any other sane person, but Raw Story is garbage.

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago

He has done it for so long he really thinks that is what you are supposed to do. I was completely done with him when I read what he did to the people who built that casino all those years ago. He ruined lives and never once has he thought or cared about it. Its not something he is capable of.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 136 points 1 day ago

Here's what I don't get.

He's incredibly consistent, not paying contractors, or employees. Or paying fractions of what the contract actually stipulated.

I don't get why any contractor would work for him. any contractor that works with trump is going to get fucked over. its how he operates.

[-] morphballganon@lemmynsfw.com 40 points 1 day ago

"He wouldn't screw me over, of course, because I'm one of the good ones"

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 6 points 18 hours ago

He's essentially a con man, and there's a sucker born every day.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 day ago

The world is full of incredible idiots. If your megaphone is big enough you can find one for just about anything you need.

[-] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago

I was unaware of just how true this is until Trump became president

[-] Naboo_calls_for_aid@sopuli.xyz 3 points 18 hours ago

Funnily enough, this far along into his political career you'd imagine most of the contractors he's able to hire are his fan base.

[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

The leopards will never eat my face

[-] nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Same reason anyone votes for him, I guess. He fucked all them over too.

[-] TipRing@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago

So he admits to being a thief.

[-] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 150 points 1 day ago

There a page in project 2025 against overtime! Imagine that!

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 65 points 1 day ago

Plus more scattered throughout. Here's just some of the obvious quotes about it

DOL should clarify that a home office is not subject to OSHA regulations and that time to set up a home office is not compensable time or eligible for overtime calculations

They want to remove overtime pay for work from home

Congress should amend the NLRA to authorize collective bargaining to treat national employment laws and regulations as negotiable defaults. For example, this reform would allow a union to bless a relaxed overtime trigger (e.g., 45 hours a week, or 80 hours over two weeks)

Allowing labor laws to be negotiable is going to be used by companies to given worse labor contracts to unions and is a blatant attempt to weaken their power

Here's a decent article that includes some of the more conniving ways Project 2025 wants to gut overtime

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

You'd think Unions would just reject that bullshit, but then Teamsters is .... probably fully on board.

[-] chillinit@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 day ago

The Teamsters, who're unabashably using bureaucratic obstruction and strict compliance to refuse to cross picket lines.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 106 points 1 day ago

He didn't have to admit it. Anyone that's been paying attention to him for the last 30 some years knows that he's a con man that doesn't pay his bills.

[-] irish_link@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately it seems that the people who rally for him didn’t research him and alway think anything bad said about him is made up. This may actually help show them he really doesn’t like the working class.

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 1 points 16 hours ago

You misunderstand. They hate immigrants and queers so much that they think that all of their problems will disappear if they elect the guy promising to purge society of undesirables.

Same story for every rise of Fascism ever witnessed.

[-] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Either they think it’s made up, or they just convince themselves that the face-eating leopard ”surely wouldn’t eat my face.”

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I've been following this POS since late 80s, Grifters are going to grift and con men are going to con.

He doesn't need to show them. He's already said, "I don't care about you. I just want your vote."

[-] nemonic187@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago

How is this shocking to anyone? He owes millions of dollars.

[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago

That's called SMART BUSINESS!

-Republicans who got Ripped Off by Trump!

[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

Love to hear ol’ Teamster guy’s thoughts on this.

[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago

You mean the guy who didn't endorse anyone? I think it was clear that the higher ups would've liked to endorse Harris, but too many of the rank and file members support trump. I don't think this'd move the needle much.

[-] Rookwood@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Members who support Trump will never hear this story so it won't change their mind.

[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

The Teamsters Guy did not endorse Trump, he used the platform to directly address the working class. If you listen to a speech he called people like Trump and the entire party out for who they are, called the entire duopoly out for who they are,

[-] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

Who the fuck didn’t know that already? This dude is notorious for not paying anyone for like the last 40+ years.

[-] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

Oh, it gets better! Glad to see these new "shocking" reports that surprises nobody at all.

[-] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

Fascist Bojangles jerking the air cocks with them tiny hands

[-] vegeta@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Thank you sir, may I have another

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

The GOP paints a beautiful picture of our future. /s It is just sad that this race is even close. It is sickening that a large amount of our population supports this.

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

His supporters should go ear-diaper again and refuse to get paid for their work

[-] Twattymctwatterson@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I read that as "Unreal: massive push back after Trump admitted he sniffed his workers at latest rally." The funny thing is I was like yeah sounds about right...stiffed is even better though lol

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