Really sick of seeing people call the HK protests a psyop. Any self-proclaimed leftist needs to support the people of Hong Kong's struggle to have the freedom to murder their pregnant wives and then flee to Thailand without being extradited.
Actually, it's about ethics in fleeing to Thailand journalism.
Violence against women and fleeing to Thailand. No wonder this movement got so much support from mediocre white dudes.
Hi, could you explain the reference here? Sounds like something I might want in my back pocket if I have to talk about this topic in real life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Poon_Hiu-wing
Woman from Hong Kong is murdered by her boyfriend while they are in Taiwan, and her murderer flees back to Hong Kong. Authorities in Hong Kong don't have jurisdiction to charge him for the murder. They also didn't have an extradition treaty with Taiwan, nor to the mainland (he is from Shenzhen). So Hong Kong proposed a law that would allow them to extradite the murderer. This was cited as the main complaint of the protesters.
The law never passed. HK did have jurisdiction to get him for stealing some of the victim's money and stuff, but he walked free like a year after murdering her.
Redditor’s thought process: “what if I murder my pregnant wife and China tries to arrest me? Egads, I must support this man!”
temporarily embarrassed wife murderers
I vaguely remember this. Was the proposed law limited to in-person serious crimes like murder, or was it overly broad?
I can't imagine that many of the protesters were against prosecuting a murderer, but there are laws, and then there are laws.
It was an extradition treaty. It would allow them to extradite criminals to Taiwan and the mainland, and vice versa. The protests were overwhelmingly white collar, for obvious reasons.
Taiwan, not Thailand. I have the strangest hunch these protests wouldn't have been promoted as much if they couldn't make it a Taiwan-Hong Kong-Mainland internal struggle.
Ah right, don't post while tired comrades, I'll fix it
Such an absurd non-issue. China should have just sent in the PLA in to black bag that little cretin. The US can extradite people from fucking Romania, if China ever collapses it will be because it respected the rules too much.
lmao, the beginning sound is noted CIA spook GW Bush telling Gorby to tear down the Berlin Wall.. like.. Okay so they are admitting that that was a CIA project? Does that mean we can dispense with the idea that the eastern bloc fell on its own accord?
I thought we crossed that bridge a long time ago
It's funny how they throw in part of the tank man clip where you can see the tank turning away from the guy.
They cut it right after it started moving to imply that it was about to run him over and that they cut it out. One of those, "point them in the direction and let them fill in the blanks" kinda deals.
Your fun fact of the day is that the ground clearance on most Soviet-era tanks is about 50cm.
Why is that fedposting?
Turns out, a person can fit under a tank and not get crushed unless they decide to throw themselves at the tracks.
Interesting, innit?
Well I could be wrong, in which case I'm really putting the shit in shitposting, but it felt kind of 
to call attention to how big of an object a T-54's hull could roll over, in the context of a US army recruitment video featuring the Tiananmen Square Tank Man video. Now, a tank rolls over stuff with its treads, so the ground clearance doesn't necessarily imply anything about allegedly grinding student protestors into the pavement, but in this context I'm not sure what else it's supposed to imply. Maybe they should clarify.
Edit: Ah, ok, I read their other comment. Guess they're not fedposting.....?
yeah I took it as the opposite, but I wasn't sure
"Revolution of Dignity" is such an incredibly jingoistic phrase. I can't decide if it came out of some neolib focus group or just a room full of fascists.
e: found some research about this, it was literally the nazi party of Ukraine that popularized the phrase
https://hexbear.net/post/411806
I swear that name didn’t even come around until years afterward, that it was just called the Maidan or Euromaidan Revolution for a long time. But I don’t really know, maybe I missed it.
I've literally never heard it called that before this thread. I found one article calling it that a year later, then a bunch of "5 years later on retrospective" type articles and no source for who coined the phrase
“My handlers at the CIA” isn’t something journalists usually cite
I dug in a bit more because it was driving me crazy, turns out it was coined in some speech by a Ukrainian politician around when it happend, but like no one called it that for years.
Pretty mask off, huh?
I must be an opponent of choleric temper because this is the most irritating shit I've ever seen
This whole video is gibberish. It feels like a high budget version of one of those 4chan-inspired Anonymous V-for-Vendetta hype videos. I wonder how much money someone paid to get Sun Tzu quotes letterboxed over stock film real?
This is really shit lol.
So what, they take credit for a bunch of events we already know they were involved in. The actual ad is ultimately just bait of a variety of different things to drive social media discussion. The clown makeup, the cartoon that probably has some racist element and turning into a spook, it's all just bait to drive social media discussion and spread the ad.
There's less of them than us. They're just a bunch of dweebs on laptops and discord, 8 hours a day with an hour for lunch. Just like this ukro psyops group war room.
The only thing I will give them is that they're more organised than we are when it comes to deploying themselves online. We have no fulltime revolutionaries performing online work, the only ones getting that money to do that work are doing it offline. What we have is a bunch of nerds doing whatever, whenever they feel like it, online, with motivation being a massively crucial factor in the quantity of what gets done and what doesn't. But we continue to get stronger at it.
That picture always makes me laugh. Why do you need so many screens for discord?
if this is real, using a horror theme for the video is actually a genius 4D chess move
It is real, this shit was promoted by the algorithm big time last year
I can't find any direct linkage from their soc.mil page (today) to that Facebook or YT. It has been around a while though, so it probably is.
Here is a reaction video from a year ago, where they make fun of it for misrepresenting psyops' job description in the video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=opUsImaNbiE
This just looks like something produced by some guy larping as military recruitment, https://twitter.com/GoArmySOF
Can I ask why you think it's fake?
Vid obviously seems insane like Jinx went back on their meds so it felt like it was worth a deeper five. I went about as deep as I could, they've got a .mil URL, IDK I couldn't really come up with anything that was clearly bogus.
So, silly promo videos aside, what is the difference between US psyops, Russian psyops, and China psyops?
Is there a reason why one deserves more derision than the others?
It seems like BAU for "great powers" to try to extend their influence beyond their borders to the benefit of their national interests.
Scope and effectiveness I guess.
For example the big russian psyop that led to Trump getting elected turned out to be around 100k monthly in facebook ads this sounds like much but is not that manpower intensive and also like really cheap, this is of course assuming that this is what led to Trump winning which I somewhat doubt. This is the one big win but I'm sure there's a lot of others.
This is contrasted with US psyops, the National Endowment for Democracy gets a grant of around 130 millions per year. this one little arm of the US government has probably fifty times more money available than all of the russian psyops combined. So US psyops are much better funded and they are just more effective historically, the amount of CIA coups and psyops that the CIA themselves say they've done dwarf any other country.
This isn't even getting into what the effects actually are US psyops are often responsible for fascist coups or heightening ethnic tensions between groups to destabilize a country leading to horrible ethnic conflicts and this isn't limited to just a psyops they'll arm turkish fascist that do violence against kurds and back home there'll be concern but no condemnation of decades.
I saw a RadioFreeEurope article the other day called Bandera "Controversial" and using phrasing like "being accused of pogroms".
RFE, being a literal arm of the US federal governemt with millions in funding to put out history-erasing articles just like that daily.
I didn't want to do the whole leftist meme of a listing everything because the guy had like 5 answers already.
List away, I'll get to them. :-)
heightening ethnic tensions between groups to destabilize a country
I would like to know more about this, do you have any examples?
Michael Parenti's To Kill a Nation is about this process as it was ~~used~~ committed in Yugoslavia.
Essentially, Yugoslavia remained communist instead of surrendering to capitalism like it was "supposed" to, like the USSR and the rest of the Eastern block had. So the CIA began an intense propaganda campaign to turn the different nationalities living within the state against each other. The result was a horrific war, with ethnic cleansings committed by many groups, culminating in a brutal bombing campaign by NATO - the "defensive" alliance - and the splintering apart of a successful multinational socialist state.
It's the dunk tank.
This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.
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