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"And be sure to vote for the genocide supplier or you're a Nazi"
conservatives are absolute trash at making memes, it's so... clunky.
It's that or infinite ugly cartoon frogs with smug expressions. 
Muslims believe in Jesus too ๐
i've never met nor heard of a muslim who gave a shit about jesus's position in their doctrine.
In Islam he's another prophet, and Muslims believe Jesus will return in the final days. But they don't consider him a God or the son of God, so no "what will Jesus think of this" because he's not the one that they believe is the judge
righr it doesn't really fit the "fanbase" thing, so i'm not sure what the comrade i replied to was getting at. i similarly wouldn't generalize christians as big moses fanboys
To me a mythical figure within a religious canon fits the 'fanbase' thing. Considering how uptight christians are about the ten commandments I'd also consider them fans of moses.
I was pointing out some hypocrisy because a good deal of racist christians are totally unaware jesus exists outside of their ~~headcanon~~ new testament
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idk, I'm not a Christian but DreamWorks' The Prince of Egypt fucking slaps
They view him as another prophet, not the Son of God.
I me Mekka, two graves are prepared and left empty for centuries. One is for the Mahdi, one is for Jesus when he returns to heaven.
I was just thinking about the Ramy episode, sorry if i gave off the wrong impression comrade
i don't know what that is.
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๐ค oh my, you really owned em good with at epic funny meme my epic sirs ๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค
Kid Rock has a fan base?
50 year old divorced guys who peaked in high school
At least two confirmed sources (himself and his dad) claim that he was actually incredibly unpopular even in rich colonizer school in South Africa.
Dude is so uniquely abrasive that nobody has ever liked him for any reason other than trying to ride on his wealthy coat tails. Perfect specimen of dumbass, yet you are forced to hear about him incessantly because he has all the money in the world for some reason.
Wrong guy lol, unless Kid Rock also grew up in apartheid South Africa and I just hadn't heard of it.
My b. Lol. I just see "50 year old divorced guy" and 
and assume somoeones talking about musk.
His opinion on Bud Light carried an unreasonable amount of weight.
He also has a fedora, which may have overlap with that fanbase. 
We used to have an islamophobic reddit heritage but thankfully a struggle session later we purge it, i dont think the lemmitors will do what needs to be done
I've been here from the start and I don't even remember that struggle session. 
I think it was a sub struggle session of the greater religion struggle session
Nah, i posted a dunktank post abou r/europe posting a drawing of muhammad and 3-5 people acted like reddit atheists over how its the muslims fault for getting mad and one of them becoming a sitemod but eventually a muslim user used the post to show how the new sitemod was a bigot and he got sitebanned
wtf is that anime jesus lmao
Jesus ~~saves~~ serves
I can't figure out who did the original but it's a semi-common image, depicting the "sacred heart of Jesus" wikimedia image
Oh boy if they're gonna paint a group of people as violent, wait til they see what I think we should do to those smuglords.
So I am not Christian or Muslim, but is there a reason that referencing Mohammed is more offensive than having Jesus in the first image?
Depends on what you're asking, honestly.
If youre asking why its heretical in Islam to produce an image of Muhammad, there's a deep history of iconoclasm in all of the Abrahamic religions and have each decided on how to deal with religious imagery in their own practice. Islam has the strictest interpretation, but they all have writings dealing with it.
If you're asking why the meme is offensive, it's because the implication that Muslims are 'a fanatic fan base that will murder you for as little as producing an image of Muhammad'. It's definitionally islamophobic.
It doesn't help that the "image of Muhammad" that these chuds want to produce is almost always the most vile and racist caricature you could possibly imagine, not far off from the Happy Merchant antisemitic one
It's a good example of selection bias. Everyone who respects Muslims won't draw the prophet, then the ones who don't are gonna make some egregiously racist art.
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Christianity does not have a tenet forbidding the depiction of religious figure, well, besides the no graven images thing
Which, I don't think anyone actually pays close attention to anyway
Isn't that the same tenet, it's just interpreted differently? That is Christians historically treating it as idols dedicated to other deities, with inconsistent although not completely absent application to Christian figures (like IIRC one Protestant grievance against Catholics had to do with their use of idols, particularly idols of saints).
It also has to be said that Islam is not unique nor monolithic in terms of how rigidly its followers adhere to its tenets nor even what those tenets are assumed to mean, and historically Muslim depictions of Muhammad in religious art did happen and were accepted in some places and at some times. The modern extremeness of the issue is a combination of the unusually hardline and extreme interpretation pushed by Saudi Arabia - which US intelligence has helped it export globally because salafist militants both tend to do the sort of reactionary violence that furthers American interests and have provided a casual pretext for the US to roll in and start occupying whomever it pleases whenever it pleases - and the fact that it's basically just a racist airhorn used by blowhards who want to say "I hate you and hold you in complete contempt, so I'm publicly thumbing my nose at you and daring you to try something" in a way that invites retaliation from aggrieved and impulsive young men who already feel disaffected and targeted by racism.
This is the full picture, thank you for elaborating
It's important to note that while Christians largely interpret the iconoclasm differently, they do still have hard and fast rules that clash with contemporary culture, and are cited by extremists as justification for acts of terror and murder. The fact that those extremists are largely seen as aberrations while Muslim extremists are seen as inherent to the faith is the result of islamophobic bigotry
This is only tangentially related, but now I'm imagining a bunch of America first chuds assaulting people who wear American flag print clothing bacause it's a flag code violation.
I'm pretty sure you can find historical examples of paintings of Muhammad online like right now. There's also plenty that just hide his face behind a ball of light surrounded by his companions who all look the same so it's fair to guess what the artist would have put there if not for the iconoclasm.
A lot of the paintings are really cool. There's been debate and speculation among art historians about Islamic art influencing the Renaissance. Different painting techniques could have originated in the Middle East before getting exported back to Europe during the Crusades.
One piece of evidence for this is with etching. The etching of metal was first used by Arabs to mark their equipment so if they died, their stuff could be taken back to their families. Europeans learned of this technique and applied it to metal plates. Copper is much more durable than woodblocks and you can make more copies before the master gets damaged or destroyed. This led to more effective printing because crews could work faster not worrying about damaging their tools.
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Thank you for going into detail on this
I was just speaking as a guy who paid close attention in Sunday school and has an interest in destroying Mormonism
Fuckin' White Pharoah
Just to add to what she said, Eastern Orthodox Christians have an interesting rule where they allow flat icons only. Statues are prohibited because they're too close to the real form of the objects they represent. They also tend to take on a more abstract style with their icons, while Catholic icons have a more realistic style that I believe later influenced romanticism.
an interest in destroying Mormonism
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Not even all Muslims do.
The Christians had a big fight about it as well. It's pretty obvious who won.
Yep, the Mormons
Though they did have the advantage of the magic submarine Jesus used to come to the Americas
Why did Jesus need magic to get to the Americas if the Lost Tribes of Israel had already made the journey without magic? What now, momos?
Don't tempt the wrath of the white pharoah
"I'm Nephi!"
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