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[-] yemmly@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago

Simple really:

  1. A talking snake with legs convinced Eve, who was made from a rib, to eat a fruit that made her realize she was naked.
  2. ???
  3. Jesus had to be born of a woman, obviously.
[-] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago
[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

step four: preach about the sins of being wealthy and hold out your hand with a cheesy grin.

[-] kamenlady@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

profit after this?

Or is there a step five, just waiting to reveal itself, in all it's impossible glory?

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

that's the neat part. these marks are so stupid, you just keep your hand out there and they buy you new-model private jets.

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[-] WeebLife@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

If god created the whole universe. Why did he also create the snake in the first place? Was it because he wanted us to have to overcome evil tempations? Or did evil exist before hand, meaning god didn't create everything in the universe?

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Either he's omniscient and omnipotent and everything has happened exactly as he intended, proving he's an asshole, or he's not and lied about it, proving he's an asshole.

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[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I've never heard that the snake had legs, what's that from?

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[-] Chessmasterrex@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

ThE LoRd WoRkS iN MyStERiOuS WaYs!

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Let’s just be honest here,

They kinda gloss over exactly how Mary got preggo.

I’m just wondering, did he pull a Zeus and show up as one variety of animal or another?

[-] Icalasari@fedia.io 20 points 1 month ago

Virgin birth was meant as born without sin. So she did the mortal nasty

Which makes the whole Religious Right trying to paint it as her being magically pregnant all so they can make sex ebil even more hilarious

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 16 points 1 month ago

I mean.. Jesus DID had brothers and sisters, both from the same mother and some side work Joseph had with another woman.

Sin eventually caught up.

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Well don't tell the Catholics that. They believe she's still a virgin.

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 8 points 1 month ago

Could you imagine being raised in that house?

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

yup. the question is.... did he show up like a swan. maybe a horse (poor marry. so unsatisfying,) or maybe something else. (tentacles seem like they could be fun.)

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[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Virgin in this context means unwed.

But good luck convincing a Christian of that ;-)

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[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

"The angel came in unto her."

Interpret that as you will.

  1. The angel came through the door and into her abode?

  2. Or the angel CAME into her vagina?

[-] VerdantSporeSeasoning@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

I've had a lot more fun with Bible stories since I started subbing in "teenage Jewish hoodlums who know how to get shit done" every time "an angel of the Lord* appeared. I mean, why would actual magical angels need blood painted on doors to know which houses to avoid? Hoodlums, however, can use a code like that. Or how about removing the tombstone and telling the Marys " why do you look for the living amongst the dead?" That's a place for a bunch of enthusiastic, anti-empire teenagers if I ever saw one.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

He ran out of 9th level spell slots and had to use an 8th level slot to create Jesus.

[-] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

The question really starts before that. Yahweh is supposed to be "omnipotent" or "all powerful". So, why was The Christ necessary at all? If Yahweh could shape reality just by saying things and they became real, couldn't he just say "I forgive you" and "Original Sin" would be forgiven?
So either Yahweh isn't all powerful and there is some greater power to which he is subservient; or, Yahweh just wanted to dip his dick in an unwilling woman to create his son/self to torture to death. All hail Yahweh!

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Apparently bro has a pretty serious code of conduct and adheres to it to a T

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[-] Technus@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 month ago

Give the guy a break, it was his Hot Girl Summer, he just wanted to experiment.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Because it's all made up, and the points don't matter.

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 13 points 1 month ago

It's harder to bullshit society about events that happened after they've developed writing.

[-] BlackLaZoR@kbin.run 10 points 1 month ago

It's simple, God was actually Aliens, and Adam was an android while Jesus was a human, so they had to inseminate real woman in his case.

[-] kamenlady@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Who was the fake woman they inseminated in the other case?

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Wouldn’t that mean we are all descended from androids? And therefore are androids?

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[-] muculent@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Because he already ate all of the spare ribs.

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[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I'd tap that.

[-] Foni@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

I am an atheist, but this doesn't seem like a strong argument to me. The answer seems clear: He wanted Jesus to be partly human due to all that stuff about sharing our sins and so forth. It's nonsense to me, but it appears to make sense to believers.

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[-] Brickardo@feddit.nl 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The same reason why Leia Organa remembers her mother despite her dying in Revenge of the Sith - the power of retconning sometimes has its... drawbacks

[-] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago

I always imagined she "remembered" through her force sensitivity; not unlike Dune's genetic memory concept

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[-] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 3 points 1 month ago

The joke is they are both fiction, haha!

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

No, one just happened long ago in a galaxy far far away

[-] Setarkus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

That obviously means that god is a woman, right?

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Alanis Moresette actually.

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[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 points 1 month ago

While I agree this is funny (and am aware this is a meme community) I'd be careful to not use this as an argument. Nowhere does it say the only way God could've sent Jesus was through a virgin birth.

[-] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Don't worry, there is no need for arguments against religion. Just ask the question while two religious people are in the room and watch them fight each other to death over different interpretations of hearsay that is thousands of years old.

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[-] s_s@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

God finally busts a nut and y'all want to shame him.

[-] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

It was premarital sex, so he deserves it for breaking the 10 commandments.

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[-] JizzmasterD@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

Jesus was “created” as deity incarnate (need the flesh to make the flesh) and Adam as a divine being(given free will as a divine creation…until he chose the wrong thing)?

[-] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I'm not religious but seems pedantic. God didn't consider Adam his son. It was just a creation. Jesus is his son, which is something that has to be made "with" a person apparently.

Also I still ascribe to the belief that old testament god and new testament god are different characters.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

God didn’t consider Adam his son. It was just a creation. Jesus is his son, which is something that has to be made “with” a person apparently.

If you get into the catechism, there is a very explicit attempt by both the Catholics and the Gnostics to claim Adam and Jesus are iterations of the same original concept of a perfected man. The gnostics get extra funky with it, claiming that there are a host of good and evil spiritual beings constantly at struggle with one another. And Adam and Jesus are iterations of this struggle, as these countervailing forces tangle up with one another. The Catholics just cut through it all and insist "There's one God and he's always winning and anything that looks like its going bad is just part of his plan because he can't lose".

But if you get into Revelations, you see a lot more of the Gnostic theory leak in. And if you actually start digging into Gnostic texts, you end up with something more akin to Zoroastrianism than modern Christianity.

Also I still ascribe to the belief that old testament god and new testament god are different characters.

They definitely aren't written consistently. But how else did you think a 4000 year old chain letter was going to shake out?

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