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When existing becomes illegal
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You know it.
Yes. That is literally the plan.
They want to either kill the homeless or jail them so that they can be enslaved for free labor.
We should create an online database of every single government official who enabled this cruelty (criminalizing poverty) in any capacity and make it a public website.
If the political winds change, we.can decide what to do with it later.
There is so much distributed culpability for this cruelty that it's easy to just throw one's hands up in defeat instead of recognizimg their are people who are culpable and could be held to account at some point lawfully.
If everything is illegal then you are already a criminal. Can't get out of it? Commit to it! That's already the problem with the system we have today. Stop making things worst!
The initial lawsuit was in a town with ~600 fewer available beds than residents. These people literally did not have anywhere else to go, and our highest court just said 'tough shit'.
Holy fuck, y'all.
Yeah, these are the kind of people who make me question my pacifism 🤬
I'm furious. I just read through as much as I could and asked GPT for a summary so I didn't miss anything. It's just about as bad as I thought.
The court is literally arguing that they're not criminalizing homelessness, they're just criminalizing 'sleeping in public' but makes no attempt to justify that with the fact that there literally aren't places to go. When Sotomayor tries to argue that cities should be responsible for providing adequate housing, they just hem and haw at 'What even IS adequate? We may never know. Plus, if we give them BEDS, they'll probably want something to keep them WARM too! That's just too much!'
It's abhorrent and inhumane.
Honest question- i have narcolepsy. I've had sleep attacks in public.
Does this criminalize a symptom of my disability?
Potentially. If you know an attack is coming and use a blanket or pillow, yes.
It's only legal to sleep in public without any bedding and without a cache of personal objects nearby, because that "implies the intent to establish a temporary residence".
Yes, you must be fined and jailed so you can assemble very important widgets.
That sounds like a significant challenge. One which if it ever gained enough traction to make it to the SC would be struck down setting a precedent to criminalize "mental illness" which would in turn be used as a precedent to criminalize more general ailments.
The dissenting opinions are just painful reads.
As seen in Dallas next to a school of divinity
Oh yes, the part in the Bible where Jesus looks at the poor and goes "kys lol"
Modern-Day Jesus:
So the beggar at the red light began shouting, "Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!"
"Be quiet!" the people in the vehicle behind yelled at him.
But he only shouted louder, "Son of David, have mercy on me!"
When Jesus heard him, he rolled down his window and ordered that the man come near. Jesus asked him, "What do you want me to do for you?"
"Lord," he said, "My only want is for enough coin to eat for today!"
And Jesus said, "If I were to give you coin, surely you would instead use it instead for drugs and alcohol. I shall not grant you this desire. Instead I shall speak unto the land that all shall know of your wicked ways and none will grant you coin again."
Instantly the man cried out, "If you were not to grant me this, Lord, please allow me to pass on from this world onto hell, for truly I am already living there."
And Jesus said, "I do not know the ways of my Father, but surely I know this: Your fate would not have fallen upon you had you followed Jesus, praising God. You have made this bed, and now it is time for you to lay in it."
And the light changed to green, and Jesus sped away. In the din, the beggar could not explain that he was born a disciple and had praised God since taking his first breath. And the people in the vehicle behind who saw it drove past and said, "Get a job", and praised God this fate would surely never befall them.
And the light changed to green, and Jesus sped away in his cybertruck.
FTFY
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No no my man suicide is a sin. You're supposed to vegetate and suffer in undignified misery until you finally die -just as God has intended for your life to be
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If you're sick of this, in the DC area, and need a saturday activity, reminder that there's a "Mass Poor People’s and Low-Wage Workers’ Assembly and Moral March on Washington, D.C. and to the Polls" in Washington DC tomorrow morning 10 AM. Make it if you can. Yeah I know the title's absurdly long and marching doesn't do shit but what else are we gonna do.
marching doesn't do shit
It's a beginning.
what else are we gonna do
We'll boycott, strike, riot, and revolt.
Import french La Revolution
They even sent us a big statue so we wouldn't forget.
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No you'll get fined, fail to pay fines, get arrested for failing to pay fines, get sent to prison and work as a slave forever as court fines increase in perpetuity.
Republicans want to bring slavery back wholesale and they are succeeding.
The American experiment has failed.
Nonsense. This is the American dream. To be a pleasant one for the rich it has to be a nightmare for others.
It actually doesn't have to be a nightmare for anyone. The rich can have perfectly pleasant lives while everyone is provided for. It's just not the most profitable situation for the rich. To have their best life, everyone else must be miserable.
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Well actually you can't die either, that's illegal. Let me know if you find any other options and I'll make sure they get illegal'd as well!
It's fine we'll just put people into inescapable debt and have their options be a labor camp or a comatose bio-energy source. You will of course incur medical debt for the comatose option.
"We will continue to charge you penalties until you can afford to pay us back"
Gotta fill the ~~slave camps~~ prisons somehow!
How many of the supreme court justices own stakes in for profit prisons?
Forced labor is not exclusive to private prisons. Federal and state prisons employ inmates just the same.
Our nation incarcerates more than 1.2 million people in state and federal prisons, and two out of three of these incarcerated people are also workers.
https://www.aclu.org/news/human-rights/captive-labor-exploitation-of-incarcerated-workers
Jails and prisons also purchase a ton of goods and services from for profit companies, who are all too happy to upcharge ("you can't put a price on safety!"), and the wardens just sign on the dotted line and hand the bill over to taxpayers
This documentary from about 20 years ago went to one of their tradeshows, and even back then they were talking about how it corrections was a billion dollar industry
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If you're homeless, go to t Your town's rich people area and sleep near their mansions. La Jolla near San Diego for example. That's also where I humanely drop off animals that get into my basement like possums and trash pandas.
Only when it happens to the rich are rules changed. If you persist, suddenly it will be legal to sleep in the city streets again!
After all, homeless people used to be housed people. The banks took their homes after their bosses too their jobs. Whoever lives in their old house basically is just in the round robin of people.
Constitutional originalists and spitting on common law, name a more iconic duo.
All originalists should have to explain why they’re doing something to Thomas Paine
And they have to dig him up with a spoon to do so. By hand, no outside assistance.
It makes perfect sense, the supreme court is just subscribing to the same belief of vaunted UK politicians that homelessness is a lifestyle choice. Perfectly reasonable, just choose not to be homeless, problem solved. /s
So, in many states....
- Can't be homeless.
- Can't be dead on purpose (suicide's illegal).
- Can't have an abortion.
- Can't marry a same-sex spouse.
- Can't get healthcare if you don't have a job, and even if you can, it's super expensive and not likely to cover everything.
So I guess, just make sure that you're born well-to-do, never make any mistakes, and are a straight, cis-gender man. Really narrows things down and puts life into clear perspective.
Don’t forget they charge for every day in jail
Jeez. It's sort of the worst kind of dystopic future there is.
Concrete walls, iron bars, hard labor, and an ever increasing debt.
Maybe I'm dumb, but how hard would it be to just not agree to work? They gonna beat you to death? Sounds better than being a slave
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i mean, that's literally what they want. they want you dead. that's what conservatives have always wanted.
Conservatives don't want you dead. They want you working (until you die) - preferably in labor camps (prisons), where you will go for sleeping outside.
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They want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers
-Carlin
it's such bullshit that sleeping in your vehicle is illegal, but just leaving your vehicle laying around is considerably less illegal.
edit: legal instead of illegal, average skill issue
There are lots of places where sleeping in your car is not legal.
freudian slip i suppose, meant to say that lol
Guess I'll just die
"Great, were glad you understand the message. Just don't die anywhere visible, heh, we don't need corpses stinking up the streets" - SCOTUS, probably
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