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[-] RavenFellBlade@startrek.website 37 points 5 months ago

Because the Nazi skinheads did a great job of co-opting the punk title for most people who weren't actually interested in punk. The news media were very complicit in pushing that specific image to undermine the punk movement to the general public.

[-] Hikermick@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The Nazi skinheads co-opted skinhead. After the Geraldo Rivera episode everyone I knew let their hair grow out because they didn't want to be associated with that shit. Before that there were only a few isolated scenes where you'd see Nazi skinheads. Cutting off your hair was popular in the hardcore punk scenes because it was contrary to the long feathered hair popular in the 70's and 80's plus it was a lot easier than trying to get a Mohawk to stand up straight. That took a whole can of hairspray and we were all broke.

[-] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Y'all needed more Elmer's glue for the mohawks

[-] Hikermick@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Nah that stuffs water soluble, won't stand up in the pit

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 13 points 5 months ago

That's new to me. Where I live, punks and skinheads are natural enemies

[-] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Like skinheads and goths, or skinheads and greasers, or skinheads and other skinheads

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Labor skinheads and neonazi skinheads.

I was so sad when I discovered the Hammerskins were a thing (a White Power band inspired by Pink Floyd's Waiting For The Worms, but without the irony, with a corresponding militant movement). The Hammerskins took their logo:

From the Hammers banner from the movie version of Pink Floyd's The Wall

Which means when I reference the Hammers in parody of white power movements, I risk being associated with an actual white power movement.

If they had balls, they'd call themselves The Worms.

<looking up to make sure The Worms isn't a social movement yet>

[-] myrrh@ttrpg.network 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

...the hammers were in the original album art and live show before the film...

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago

My first purchased version was the CD after the movie release. Stunning, amazing work, the lot of it.

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

And the worms ate into his brain!

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

RFK_Jr. has entered the chat

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 8 points 5 months ago
[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

"I thought WE were the People's Front of Judaea?"

[-] RavenFellBlade@startrek.website 5 points 5 months ago

That's true everywhere. The issue isn't what they are, the issue is how they were deliberately misrepresented. A whole lot of films and shows made it a point to conflate punks with white supremacists.

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 months ago

I wanted to say that that's what they are seen here in Germany. I have never heard of these films and the idea is new to me. Btw: the original skinheads were left working class so maybe history repeats itself here.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Normies can't tell the difference.

(Can you really blame them when it's down to things like what color their shoelaces are?)

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Because the Nazi skinheads did a great job of co-opting the punk title

Nah. They tried REAL hard to infiltrate and take over, but real punks always managed to repel them.

for most people who weren't actually interested in punk

And/or were just old fogies.

The news media were very complicit in pushing that specific image to undermine the punk movement to the general public.

Corporate news and undermining left wing people by conflating them with far right hate clubs. Name a more iconic duo.

[-] Cypher@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

The US government and coups in South America?

[-] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Why limit it to south america?

[-] RavenFellBlade@startrek.website 2 points 5 months ago

Just to be clear, here, I'm not suggesting that the neo Nazis actually did take over, only that that image was the wider public perception.

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