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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

0.9<overbar.> is literally equal to 1

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

There's a Real Analysis proof for it and everything.

Basically boils down to

  • If 0.(9) != 1 then there must be some value between 0.(9) and 1.
  • We know such a number cannot exist, because for any given discrete value (say 0.999...9) there is a number (0.999...99) that is between that discrete value and 0.(9)
  • Therefore, no value exists between 0.(9) and 1.
  • So 0.(9) = 1
[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Even simpler: 1 = 3 * 1/3

1/3 =0.333333....

1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 0.99999999... = 1

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Even simpler

0.99999999… = 1

But you're just restating the premise here. You haven't proven the two are equal.

1/3 =0.333333…

This step

1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 0.99999999…

And this step

Aren't well-defined. You're relying on division short-hand rather than a real proof.

[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Mostly boils down to the pedantry of explaining why 1/3 = 0.(3) and what 0.(3) actually means.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the explanation (not proof tbf) that actually satisfies my brain is that we're dealing with infinite repeating digits here, which is what allows something that on the surface doesn't make sense to actually be true.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Infinite repeating digits produce what is understood as a Limit. And Limits are fundamental to proof-based mathematics, when your goal is to demonstrate an infinite sum or series has a finite total.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

That actually makes sense, thank you.

[–] jonsnothere@beehaw.org -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

0.9 is most definitely not equal to 1

[–] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hence the overbar. Lemmy should support LaTeX for real though

[–] jonsnothere@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh, that's not even showing as a missing character, to me it just looks like 0.9

At least we agree 0.99... = 1

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 2 years ago

Oh lol its rendering as HTML for you.