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US involved in Israeli operation in Nuseirat that killed over 200 Palestinians
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How deranged do you have to be to think that it's okay to murder more than 200 innocent people to save 4? Imagine that there's a hostage situation somewhere near you, and the outcome is "we saved the 4 hostages, unfortunately 200 bystanders died". I can not comprehend how you can be so mentally disturbed that you can be okay with that.
Person you are replying to didn't do that in comment you are replying to.
They meant to say it as they already commented
Ah. Misreply.
I mean, say what you want but 100% dozens of those 200 are Hamas terrorists. He's not wrong. Heck, we don't even know if it was indeed 200 killed.
Also how is nobody here even a bit mad over Hamas hiding hostages in a refugee camp?
Because we they’re scorpions.
You only express anger at things that you think can change.
You just express depression at things that are wrong that you know you can’t.
We are mad at Israel because we expect more from them than we do from terrorists.
It’s the same reason we get mad here in the USA when our country does something stupid and shitty like invading Iraq to try and finish the job that your daddy couldn’t.
That's an actually really solid case.
I do think though that the world also needs to help Israel in the fight against Hamas. You can't expect them to both be humane with the same standard as the rest of the west, while they're the only ones being constantly attacked (and very effectively so).
So while you can and should expect change from the situation, you can't expect it to come for free and one sidedly.
I think we have been very generous so far, more so than a lot of us would like
How deranged do you have to be to say Israeli lives are less important than Palestinian? Take your Hamas propaganda somewhere else troll.
The issue here is that the IDF believes Israeli lives are FAR more important than Palestinian lives. How much? They actually have calculated how many Palestinian civilian deaths are acceptable to protect one Israeli soldier.
They didn't calculate a fixed number. They adjust the numbers depending on what allows them to throw enough bombs that day. And if they get to distract or don't face political backlash over it, which we saw in the past months getting especially worse, with how the US, UK and Germany to maybe throw some words, but otherwise go hellbent on full support of their crimes.
For all matters of reason the value of a Palestinian life to the Zionazis is 0. Heck we see them murdering women and children out of boredom. We see them counting how many women and children they murdered and bragging about it on Tiktok.
Lol what? I'm clearly not saying that, I'm arguing Israeli lives are not worth more than Palestinian. My whole point is that a life is a life, I don't give a rats ass what side of an imaginary line on a map that person was born.
Are they more important
Innocents died and that is a tragedy but I do not believe all 200 are innocents when there are hostages being held. If I was complicit holding hostages in my home I would not be an innocent
Okay, let's assume only half are innocent (that's generous given the statistics of the invasion so far). That's still more than 100 innocent human beings murdered. Families torn apart, children orphaned, parents that have to bury their children, or families that simply stopped existing. How anyone can celebrate that outcome as a success I will never understand.
I also wish Hamas didn't use human shields.
I don’t think you do
Think whatever you like.
A refugee camp isn't much of a home.
It’s a city. Calling it a refugee camp is due to the special UN status all Palestinians have as refugees no matter where they are.
That is bullshit. The reason why 90% of the Palestinians have a refugee status is because 90% of them were forcibly displaced by Israel. The few Palestinians that don't have a refugee status do so, because they were already living in Gaza or the few remaing parts of the occupied Westbank and East Jerusalem that weren't forcibly evicted and settled by Israeli terrorists yet.
You mean their grandparents were displaced by Israel. They themselves were born in Gaza or the West bank, and should be considered residents of that land. If attempts of trying to "free palestine" by terrorism stop, and plans like Oslo could be continued of establishing a state in the 67 borders, then Palestinians can stop being refugees. Meanwhile no Palestinian organization is doing what's good for their people - which is to try and make peace over existing borders.
90% of Gazans have been displaced from the homes they did live one year ago due to Israel's invasion of Gaza, which is why the person you're talking to says they're refugees. Please get informed because flaunting your ignorance.
Please learn to read what he wrote before saying anything.
He was talking about the 48 war, and their refugee status since then.
Right now Gazans are refugees, yes, but they were considered "refugees" even before this war, when they had a home (which is now probably destroyed since oct.7).
I'm informed, I just also know how to read.
Replace Palestinians with European Jews in your statement, and think of existing borders as in Nazi Germany 1942 and then think again very slowly, if you want to make these kind of arguments.
... But jews aren't considered refugees.... I fail to see your point in comparing that, since european jews are indeed not refugees. Their grandparents were refugees after the 2nd world war, but now they're Israelis or migrated to another country. In both cases, not refugees anymore.
What country did Palestinians migrate to?
These comments are unironically as insane as people that say that there are no innocents in israel and Hamas had the right to shoot every israeli.
But somehow Zionists saying insane Nazi shit just flies.
Those 200 could be rest of hostages.
Direct question. Are you USSAian? Because it seems you imagine everyone lives in own separate house.
lmao
Ok so what number are you ok with here?