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[-] highalectical@lemmygrad.ml 77 points 3 months ago

Not only do people believe it, thinking the Molotov Ribbentrop pact was an alliance is the most common take on it I've seen from people I know in meatspace.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 50 points 3 months ago

The only people that know what it is who are anticommunists. The rest don't have a clue.

[-] highalectical@lemmygrad.ml 51 points 3 months ago

In my experience, they couldn't tell you the name of the pact or anything about it if you asked them, but the "USSR and nazis teamed up" talking point is still there.

[-] duderium@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Liberals of all kinds, even those who are not well-read, believe that Nazism and communism are the same.

[-] highalectical@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 3 months ago

Especially those who aren't well-read.

[-] duderium@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago

I love this quote. What’s even worse though is being technically literate but still so fervently anti-communist that you refuse to even look at Marxist texts. Or, if you do look at them, they just look like gibberish. This is what happened to me when I attempted to read The Communist Manifesto and Capital as a liberal teenager. I got nowhere.

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 49 points 3 months ago
[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 44 points 3 months ago

Ehh you usually do, the much better arguments are:

  1. A ton of other countries had non-aggression pacts with the Nazis
  2. The Soviets signed theirs after Britain and France shot down an anti-Nazi pact (which would be an example of a pact between allies)
  3. Your allies don't launch a genocidal invasion of you
[-] Biggay@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

Not to actually The Soviets and Britain + France were not actual political allies, only really allies in that they eventually fought the same country for a very brief period of time. In the case of France they were never at war with the Nazis simultaneously as the Soviets

[-] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago

Always ask them if they know what is a Czechoslovakia, what happened to it in 1938 and who were the people shaking hands nodding in agreement and then finally happily cheering after it happened.

[-] amphibian@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago

idk what meatspace is, am i blessed for my ignorance here?

[-] save_vs_death@hexbear.net 39 points 3 months ago

cutesy internet terminology for "in real life" a play on "cyberspace"

[-] amphibian@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago

ohh ty, i assumed it was like some nazi forum lol

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