I'm glad this report showed their innocence but I unsubscribed after the GN/Billet Labs thing.

I might check them out again later but that situation made me kind of uncomfortable with supporting them

The defamation statement was maybe a bit much, but also warranted. People need to know that just throwing accusations out there that are just plainly not true is actually legally problematic.

I also don't get why people feel this is "threatening people who want to speak up in the future".

If your "speaking up" has merit, it's not defarmation. Plain and simple.

Companies make mistakes (and aparently some were made in this case, and dealt with).

But I find it concerning that people also just blindly trust any and all claims that individuals make about these kind of situations. Believe that they are telling the truth, but also verify that this is actually true. The latter part is important. Blind trust is as damaging as not doing anything at all about a proble, There are people out there who get laid off for legitimate reasons, and try to retaliate for that. Even by claiming BS reasons.

I don't have LTT, I just find it worthless. Their content is frequently shallow, I dislike the presentation (clickbait-y titles and thumbnails, annoying segways, etc), and I find Linus himself annoying. Then again, I do watch their content from time to time, if they have something worth watching. That's not very often, but they do make some decent content occasionally. I rarely care about PC shenanigans, but sometimes I'll watch Jays2Cents if I want some of that (he's perhaps more annoying than Linus, but it is what it is, I guess).

I mostly watch Gamers Nexus for reviews, news, and benchmarks. I find the delivery much more in-line with what I'd like, though I find Steve a bit long-winded so I tend to skip a bunch in the videos. But the content is high quality.

To each their own though. My coworker really like LTT and went to LTX recently, so I'll watch a video here and there for water-cooler discussions.

It's unbelievable how much hate for LTT there is on this platform.

They have a huge reach and tremendous influence, but are not always conscientious, careful, and thorough as they should be given their sway. Still, that doesn't justify the vitriol.

I just don't like Linus because he's annoying and abuses clickbait thumbnails and titles.

Some of their videos (from other people than himself) are good, but usually I'll avoid LTT content all together.

For that reason I'm not really sure what happened, and I don't really care.

I watch almost all of the LTT videos as well as most of the videos across all the other LMG channels. While I think I'd probably get along really well with Linus as a friend or acquaintance, and I don't necessarily have any issue with him as a person, he has had some pretty irritating takes and used his bully pit to essentially swat away or mock legitimate criticism on his takes. Usually about things that are outside of his core competencies. The ones that come to mind are some of the things he has said about unions (he's not anti Union to be clear), the backpack, car dependency in North America, and worker cooperatives.

I personally think it would be pretty interesting if he had experts in those areas come on the WAN show to talk about those things. Instead he does the super ADHD thing (something he has admitted he has, and something I have definitely recognized him doing having had a partner with severe ADHD exhibit similar behaviors) where he spends seconds finding an article, skims it not noting much nuance, and then somehow simultaneously says something confidently while also saying he doesn't know what he's talking about. He often wants the best of both worlds. He wants to be taken seriously while also being given the latitude to joke around and just make hot takes.

Even with all that said, as stated above, I will still watch most of his videos and wish him well. Recognizing the flaws in something I enjoy doesn't mean I hate something, especially if I take the time to voice it. It usually means I care and I want to see something I like or that is good improve and get better.

The hate from this community towards LTT is extreme and unfounded.

Are you just going to ignore Linus and the companies abhorrent response to the situation? That alone should make anyone lose any respect they had for them.

there are a lot of reasons to dislike LTT outside of this incident. I don't have anything against them, but I can understand why others would.

I have no issue with LTT as a whole, I just really don't like Linus. He portrays an almost weaponized incompetence in a lot of computing topics and doesn't accurately represent his own lack of understanding to the audience that couldn't tell on their own. By all accounts there is one hell of a team working there, they just chose a really bad face to represent the actual content.

Just my personal take for what it's worth.

It's one of those things you just have to accept about this kind of social media and, in a sense, Lemmy users specifically. I'm not too surprised that parts of this community are in the camp of disliking things because they are popular and don't fit their specific wants/needs. Many people are here because they dislike the more popular Reddit, after all.

In a more general sense, most people when they don't like something are neutral about it, and those people won't show up in the comment section, so all we see are these more "extreme" opinions.

I enjoy watching LTT videos, but you won't find me jumping into comment sections saying I'm a huge fan and there's no way they could have done something bad because I like their channel, for example. Getting the independent audit was a good idea, and I'm glad they went through it. I don't think the defamation comment was necessary, but that doesn't mean the rest of the message is worth ignoring.

An investigation from a neutral third party is a good thing, but in this case LTT hired the third party investigator so the investigators obviously have an incentive to find LTT innocent of all charges since LTT is paying them through Linus Media Group (LMG). It's better than nothing, but it's like when there's an internal affairs investigation into police misconduct... by the police... Nobody believes it and for good reason.

It's important to remember that the people who are okay with this report probably won't speak up. Those who find reasons to not be okay will speak loudly. Personally, I take reports like this with a grain of salt and an assumption we are told only the good or neutral bits. I then decide if those bits are enough to constitute good will. In this I feel they are.

So good job: LTT.