Seriously, I wanna fucking leave my house every fucking day. They work everyday, all day and are exploited for their work, have bad health that they have no time to take care of and are so devoted to defending millionaires for "creating jobs" that they cannot accept that what creates value is labour. They hate the government and see it as bad, I agree, the bourgeois democracy is terrible, but when I say that, they don't believe in it. State owned equals inherently bad, seriously, its so hard to see the truth and ALMOST EVERYONE around you is a chud, a lib or at best a soc dem. And thank god for soc dems here, because at least they aren't anti-communist, at least some of them. Every fucking time I have to argue with a lib, I want to organize harder

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[–] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's possible to break through, but they'd have to understand the extent of US criminality around the world over the last 80 years.

Of course the constant work and lack of time to contemplate reality is part of the propaganda apparatus.

[–] Alisu@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's pretty hard. They say shit like business owners generate jobs, and get mad when you explain that's not true. It's funny how they can't explain why I'm wrong, and just say that they know from experience, what experience? The alienanting work under capitalism? What part of the horrible current situation and the darker and darker looking future do you not see?

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now we're at lib discourse 101....

What type of libs are they? Bleeding heart social libs (socially progressive, and economically reformist), the composed neolib, or the fash-adjacent libertarian? (the latter has to do with settler colonialism or smthn)

[–] Alisu@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Closer to fash adjacent libertarian, but like conservative on almost everything except for "free market" stuff