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You think Biden closing the border as soon as he's able is a good thing?
Like, you understand that wouldn't just be a one time thing right? Future presidents could do it to, and Republicans actually do out things in motion in their first days.
I mean, Biden went from saying the border wasn't an issue to saying we need that literally over night.
That doesn't concern you?
I feel like that was just a dare to the Republicans. That way when they kill the bill, they can't point to Biden as the cause.
This was my interpretation as well.
No
No it isn't. Not even close. This is just assuming that because Republicans say it is that it's actually the worst its ever been. Somehow every presidential election it's the worst its ever been and news organizations parrot the accusation without just calling them out on the BS.
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/the-facts-on-the-increase-in-illegal-immigration/
It would be good if you could cite a source that wasn't almost 3 years old. It looks like since this article, monthly CBP encounters at the southern border have more than doubled:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters
They're apprehending more because they're more able to track them, not because there were more than in 2000. And at the same time the people being apprehended are much more likely to be seeking asylum (aka legal). We can't know the precise number of illegal immigrants, but it's pretty safe to say it's no where near the 2000s.
https://www.npr.org/2022/10/24/1130841306/new-record-in-border-patrol-apprehensions
What?
The economy is propped up by record breaking fossil fuels drilling and corporations increasing prices 2-3x while not raising pay...
That's something virtually every American is aware of right now...
And while Biden trying to brag about the economy hurts him. Either he doesn't understand that very basic thing, or he doesn't give two fucks about theaverage American, just corporations and billionaires.
Which has been a critique of American neoliberalism since James Carville started spouting all this stupid shit to begin with
Holy hyperbole batman. Prices rose by about 15% on average and wages rose as well, but not as much (between 7 and 12% depending on the source).
Which given 10 years of almost no inflation and moderate wage growth, is not that surprising.
Unemployment at a 60-year low, real wages at a 50-year high. That's not to say there aren't problems (largely the cost of housing, education and healthcare eating up all the gains over the last half century), but the economy is good, Jack.
Haven't you heard? Statistics are globalist propaganda 🙄
No, the person I replied to said increased immigration is due to our "hot economy"...
But it's not, because all that money is going into a very small amount of pockets.
Didn't you just say you weren't American? Why are you discrediting the experience of people living in the US?
Oh wow...
Yeah. I don't think me explaining anything else to you is gonna help then bud.
The difference is I'm going to do something so I never accidentally try again.
Or the fact that he can just bypass congress to give weapons to Israel, or the record oil extraction during his first term? Dems pretending their party isn't actively destroying the world is wild.
Are we still pretending bOtH sIdEs or are we just skipping straight to "democrats are evil don't vote for them" now?
As a Canadian, yeah both of your right wing parties are essentially the same. Brown kids will be bombed and oil will be pumped.
And these lies will lead to trump again. Thanks for that
Dems will lead themselves there, just like they did in 2016. Stop blaming voters for your party's incompetence.
I'm blaming morons spreading discontent and shitty ass ideas and that's fully fair. Thanks for changing the subject though
Why are you so worried about "spreading discontent" in a small community message board? Don't get me wrong, you should be about this election, but don't you think it's a little late now?
The election is in 9 months.
They've had 4 years. What is the Dems message at this point besides "not trump"? What do they stand for in this election? I get their emails the same as you everyday, they say nothing except "beat Trump". We're way past "addressing discontent" at this point.
People are frustrated, people are upset and the only thing the Dems have in 4 years is "at least we're not that guy". Is that really going to work again? I think the discontent is absolutely warranted at this point, my dude.
I didn't read this.
What an absolute child you are. Learn how to have a conversation instead of trying to feel better than everyone.
I don't need to converse with people who strive to install fascists. Thanks though
Criticism of the democratic party is equivalent to striving to install fascism??
Listen to yourself! I fucking voted for Biden in 2020, I want them to be better. That isn't trying to "sow discontent" it's not striving to install fascism, it's criticism. Jfc you guys are soft.
Convenient.
Sounds like something a republican would say 🤔
Republicans: the people you are hell bent on putting in office.
Nuh huh, meany liar pants >:(
Yes we all get it, you want trump reelected. Now go tell daddy you did well today
Trump is a dumbass fascist wannabe dictator. Biden is the current president. He is helping a country commit genocide and allowing record oil production to occur on his watch, despite saying he believes climate change is an ongoing issue. Your plugging your ears and screaming about trump isn't doing anybody any good.
where is the lie?
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Trump definitely would dial it back, so you're totally not a bad faith liar after all!
your accusation of bad faith is, itself, bad faith.
where did they lie?
They're just as bad as the republicans on this issue lol.
Sorry, what have I lied about?
>are we just skipping straight to “democrats are evil don’t vote for them” now?
i've been there over a decade.
Both parties are evil because this is an evil country that must be stopped.