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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And a lot of debt, usually. Don't forget that one.

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 2 years ago

I got paid for the PhD. Not as much as I would have earned as a computer button pusher, but enough to live on.

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If you have to pay to get a PhD then you were fleeced and probably deserve to lose that money

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I got paid to do gradschool. Not much cuz I didn’t shop around and just stayed where I did undergrad, but yeah, once you’re doing research, they should be paying you.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

pls no bully yanks

yanks are fren not food

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I don’t know, there are lots of PhD programs in the U.S. where you’re a research assistant, which basically means your tuition is free and you’re paid a stipend for the research. In my experience, I’ve only met US PhD students who were fully funded.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

From what I've heard, PhD positions in the US are funded in STEM fields, but not in the arts and social sciences. But I could be wrong.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Apologies for the Reddit link, but this explains a lot of what I would have said: https://www.reddit.com/r/GradSchool/comments/qwgl6h/why_is_there_a_commonly_repeated_idea_on_this_sub/

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah, that's interesting. So I guess the idea that arts PhDs don't get funding in the US is (mostly) a myth?

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I think people think that having to TA means they’re not being funded or something like that. If you’re getting into a program that doesn’t fully fund you, then that program doesn’t want you or it’s not a good research program. All reputable PhD programs fully fund across disciplines.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

According to the NCES, in 2015-16 the average PhD graduate had about $100k student debt

https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/pdf/coe_tub.pdf

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe you should look outside of the US.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 years ago

Ya got me there.

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think most of these are from undergrad and master. AFAIK most PhD are fully funded. Not enough to pay any debt, but usually enough to not starve.