Of all the things to criticize PSL for this is probably the worst one I've heard

"what do we want?"

"incremental change!"

"when do we want it?"

"whenever it's convenient for the ruling class!"

It’s not going to happen first. But you can’t wait until the global south rises up to do your part lol. These things need to occur simultaneously. Who do you think will be more influential when the global south’s actions start affecting the west and only fascists are out there in the streets saying they care?

I assumed 99% of the people on this site involved in organizations are already aware their socialist group isn’t going to become bolsheviks from just talking about books and chants, and that the goal was to simply exhaust the so called civil options and build a network before things get seriously. And maybe suggest to your group that they should be focusing on outreach with protests on the side.

The US is definitely hopeless if you Unironically thought a revolution would happen and became disillusioned. You should remember that communism became a threat in the west because non western countries were starting to challenge them. Then the class-and-theory revolutionaries - who served their communities in addition to protesting - were murdered and replaced with hippies, electoralists, and black supremacists

People who commit violence for you without even knowing what you stand for are untrustworthy. People who commit violence for you without being aware of the the people’s conditions are also untrustworthy.

Yup.