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I highly recommend reading up on the Anabaptist movement in England. It is much later, but women in Christianity in Europe have an amazing history of progress and revolution. The real history is less romantic, but often gives a far great appreciation. Plus its not an assumed or piecemail history, we have some recorded speeches and writings of women during the social upheaval of the English Civil War.
I highly recommend "The Many-Headed Hydra: Sailors, Slaves, Commoners, and the Hidden History of the Revolutionary Atlantic" by Rediker and Linebaugh. They go into some really neat figures. The chapter "A Blackymore Maide Named Francis" about a free black woman in England and the one bit of info we have of her and all that we can point to just from that for the amount of social change and regression in a short time, the birth of new movements and their attempts to reckon with their more radical immediate past by those who lived it, etc.
Or based. Christianity in terms of a follower of Jesus and not the dogmatic religiosity that ruling classes use to gain power, is extremely radical. They were straight up forming communes and parallel systems of power.
also basic stuff that we don't even think of today like "it is wrong to consider your wife to be a literal slave" The cultural shift in European culture as a result of Christianity is hard to underestimate. Romans thought it was in the natural order for a patriarch displeased with his wife to leave their infant son on the street (where in theory they could be adopted but in reality would be eaten by stray dogs). If you grew up in Roman society the thing you would find outraging in that situation would be if the mother complained
I know someone who is teaching themselves Latin in retirement and according to them Latin talks about death the way English talks about rain or the inuits snow
Although a pater familias could do that, it was still weird to do.
Also, they do not speak of death and dying more than any other ancient culture. The problem is we mostly have stories of political figures or generals, mythical or religious texts, and funerary inscriptions. These things tend to discuss death pretty often. People also just died a lot, and the death of animals wasn't something you could forget about when they were butchered in front of you.