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"Queers for Palestine? What's next? Chickens for KF-"

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[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 41 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

the surface level statement here is "palestinian muslims are queerphobic, therefore fascist israel should keep bombing them" as though that would somehow fix the problem of queerphobia. But the deeper implication behind this rhetoric is that the imperial core in general is pro queer and the imperial periphery is queerphobic, and that settler-colonialism has nothing to do with capitalism or imperialism or racism, and it instead has everything to do with the imperial core bourgeoisie magnanimously and philanthropically spreading "human rights" to the "backwards" people... what really pisses me off about this is that, for the longest time, indigenous queerness was crushed by colonial forces under a standard of european christian heteronormativity. Only recently has the periphery gotten this reputation of somehow being less "socially progressive" (problematic term that divorces base from superstructure) than the imperial core, and that reputation is owed entirely to the imperial core funding and arming reactionaries everywhere in the periphery, to crush organic grassroots progress in the periphery, because it was allied with anti-colonialist, anti-imperialist, and anti-capitalist forces of various political tendencies. The truth is, the imperial core doesn't want the periphery developing its own organic movements for queer rights. It wants to use the absence of these rights as a license to do imperialism and colonialism. And it has actively manufactured the lack of these rights by always backing reactionaries whenever it has the chance.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 31 points 9 months ago

Although the screenshot is mostly conservatives, a lot of liberals believe this too. But when you point out that Cuba has changed drastically since it’s state homophobia days to including LGBT people in the constitution, they will cry and pick it apart for any reason why it’s not real progress.

Capitalists, but specifically the liberals and conservatives, pretend that their ideologies have always been tolerant. Although it’s a conservative cliche, the democrats were literally the party of slavery and the KKK. Black people, Asian people, Hispanic people, LGBT people, and hell even non Anglo Europeans were treated like subhumans. They want to pretend that communism and non western societies are frozen in time, never to evolve past reactionary sentiment as if the west has.

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 27 points 9 months ago

democrats were literally the party of slavery and the KKK. Black people, Asian people, Hispanic people, LGBT people, and hell even non Anglo Europeans were treated like subhumans. They want to pretend that communism and non western societies are frozen in time, never to evolve past reactionary sentiment as if the west has.

boom. you got right to the heart of it.

[-] iByteABit@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

They want to pretend that communism and non western societies are frozen in time, never to evolve past reactionary sentiment as if the west has.

Great point

[-] Umechan@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago

"palestinian muslims are queerphobic, therefore fascist israel should keep bombing them"

And at the same time, you're personally making the lives of persecuted Christians in Syria and other Muslim majority countries/regions worse if you criticize an American Christo-facist for trying to pass a law to make it legal to take out drag queens with a sniper rifle.

[-] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

I'm once again thinking about how rad and dank the world would have been without the all encompassing intervention of Europe pressing everyone's head under a boot.

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