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[โ€“] EatMoreMacroplastics@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And ofc somebody barges in to prove my point by telling me that it was "in many ways a victory", a pentagon spokesperson couldn't have come up with a better wording for "losing is actually winning." That the sheer economic and military reach of the empire makes even its defeats bearable, that just fucking shit up without achieving much is enough to further its ends somehow, doesn't change that it has not been able to actually conquer an enemy since 1945.

[โ€“] jack@hexbear.net 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If Iraq won the war, it's hard to imagine how much worse defeat could be than what they got. Did they give the New York Federal Reserve Bank total control of oil reserves as a consolation prize? What would the conditions of US victory have been that weren't met?