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I mean, what if the Bad People are Nazis
Unpopular opinion:
Universal human rights apply to all humans, including Nazis.
Dehumanizing people and denying them their human rights is what Nazis do.
Nazis do have human rights. Including the right to be punished for their actions. Just like everyone else.
But if the governments don't punish them for their actions then don't be surprised if people take matters into their own hands. Which again, would happen to any group of people that were perceived as having too much power and being given too much leeway by the government, regardless of political beliefs.
A right is something you can claim for yourself. "Being punished for your actions" is not a right. I'd even argue that, from a political/social standpoint, punishment shouldn't be the goal: at a minimum, we should seek to reeducate, and if that fails, isolation is the way to go.
That being said, at the individual level, I wholeheartedly condone the punching of nazis.
I'll agree this should be an unpopular opinion. When they deny the rights of others, they forfeit their own.
Society is generally based on social contracts regarding human decency, respect and what apparently are more extreme ideas like compassion and empathy. It's an agreement to be a part of a community, not to exploit it for selfish gain. If they want to do that, at the very least they should be exiled and allowed only care about themselves by themselves.
We need to stop tolerating intolerance. If you're harmful to our species letalone our planet that we share with so many others, part present and future, ostracize or eradicate. This high road shit has gotten use nowhere in the entirety of our planets history but right here where monsters are allowed and encouraged to reign.
I'll also agree to step up to the chopping block if it means I take some of these assholes to hell hand in hand with me.
Granting someone human rights IS NOT tolerance.
And it's not high road shit.
When Nazis attack your state with an army, shoot them in defense.
When they attack your society, arrest them, give them a trial, lock them up and seize all assets they used.
The problem we have isn't that those measures aren't enough.
It's that we don't even do those things, because our politicians are actually in league with them or afraid of them.
Does that mean that from your perspective, the US shouldn't have attacked and defeated the Nazis in WW2 and should have allowed them to stay in power and do their thing instead?
This kinda seems like preferring to sacrifice the human rights of the innocent, to protect the human rights of their murderers.
This. Does. Not. Work.
It IS bullshit. No one ever is born with the notion of human rights and all the crap, but some creatures are born human nonetheless. Which is why
It actually is. I can agree not to kill someone unless they have killed or caused comparable harm, but not after. Once someone has breached social contract of decent treatment of others - they are not protected by it in my eyes anymore. Yes, it makes me capable of terrible things. No, I am not giving up that capability just for an idea that "I am good and civilized, unlike others"
It also makes you susceptible to do inhumane things to people based on false information.
Yes, and unless I am inhumane myself that will go on to hunt me long after the fact. This knife cuts both ways
This argument just destroy all of the plans of civilized man. WE ARE RUINED! at any moment we could be deceived! Let's all lie down in the dirt and cry until we die.
How so? It's not like we're being manipulated into thinking people that aren't nazis are. We're watching them openly do nazi shit, we're watching seig heils at the inauguration, we're seeing literally nazi playbook shit, again all out in the open. Nobody is telling us this is nazi shit, we're just seeing it for what it is. How can that be used nefariously? There's no fox news equivalent manipulating the masses of the left, we're just informed enough to see a spade for a fuckin spade. So tell me exactly how that can make me susceptible to do inhumane things based on false information. Be specific.
Maybe not in your country, but here in Germany people are in fact born with human rights, including notably the right to live.
Which, funnily, both the human rights declaration and the German constitution where written right after the nazi reign, by people who knew better than you and me what fashism can do.
Nobody is born racist, homophobic, transphobic, xenophobic, and fascist either.
Lets debate the SS in the marketplace of ideas...
Trolley problem — save the human rights of billions by sacrificing the human rights of the few who want to tie all of these people to the trolley tracks
Except it's not because killing them isn't the only option
What is your method to eliminating the active concentration camps posthaste?
Listen, you don't convert a nazi. Some can come out of it on their own when the right support is present, but here's the thing: I'm not obligated to help someone who's ideology expressly wishes for my death. Until they're not a nazi by both their own and others metrics they're an existential threat that should be eliminated with extreme prejudice by any means possible. If that's reeducation, fine, but that largely doesn't work. When something is actively trying to kill you right now, today, then you fucking kill it back. Especially when it's trying to kill you because your skin is darker or you're queer or your junk doesn't match your gender. I'll stop wanting them dead when they stop wanting me dead.
It is tho
"Universal" human rights can be forfeited by the individual by attempting to restrict another's rights.
Done and done.
It is sad for us to have to go through such trauma but violently murdering fascists is not dehumanizing. We are honouring them by believing the true extent of their evil, respecting their decision by reacting truthful to reality. It's inhumane to let such sick individuals believe they might be right, when they believe in power being absolute. Natural order is what they want, why deny them?
“Everyone I don’t agree with is a nazi therefore I am justified”
That's the flipside, but also, some people are Nazis
Yeah, Musk and Thiel both went to Nazi grooming schools In Apartheid South Africa.
A fucking lot of them these days.
this is a poorly cropped repost from tumblr, there is no critical thinking here.
Which is funny because if people listened to what you said and followed your instructions, then there literally would be no critical thinking here. Whereas if you choose to utilize critical thinking, you would not actually dismiss this thing entirely simply because it came from Tumblr because that is a logical fallacy called poisoning the well.
And if all it took to stop critical thinking for anybody was just saying, oh it comes from a bad place, then nobody would ever really do any critical thinking, right?
So let's ignore where it comes from and talk about the topic that's actually being presented, ok?