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The usual lot says Excel is better. Haven't found a difference yet.
I used excel daily in a corporate environment for the last 10 years of my working life lots of VBA etc. I was the person people came to for excel help. I'm now retired and treasurer for a small non-profit and I use LibreOffice. It's good, but not as good. My needs are pretty basic now, so I'm not pushing the capabilities, but my main gripe for now is formatting pivot tables.
Your needs are pretty basic? Heh, pretty Visual BASIC!?
VISUAL BASIC FOR APPLICATIONS!?!
I understand for home use calc, especially, works just fine, but I have to deal with editing excel files at work daily... I can't even run VBA's. And if I save the file in calc it gets messed up.
The issue is the same as always, that some guy used excel first, and now I have to use it too otherwise I need to redo the entire excel file. I can't be bothered.
It's by design.
Calc will do nearly everything Exel will: but MS wants to lock people into their ecosystem.
Yea I know, obviously
The company I work for pays horrors for the full MS suite. That alone should be enough to force some thinking.
But I digress.
I'm not a desk jokey but I have to fill a sheet daily and occasionally a few other documents. I only use LibreOffice.
When I first received the models, they were filled with errors and bad formatting. And printing the sheet always put out shrunk versions of the document, hard to read. I got printed copies along with the digital files, "in case I couldn't open the files".
My spreadsheet jailbroke the document, allowing me to rectify the errors and the prints come out using the entire sheet, with better end results than the official version.
Someone, very well paid, is wasting a lot of money.
What's most interesting and baffling to me is that most people think libreoffice "breaks" things. But so far, every time I looked into it, libreoffice "breaking something" usually flows like this:
Every. Single. Fucking time.
I got to a point where I tell them to wank off if they ask me to do something and I don't have easy access to Windows.
"implementing things in non-standard ways", have been their modus operandi for about 3 decades now
Yeah, LO equivalent is to use python inside calc but you can use python outside of Excel just as easily so there's no reason for people to switch from what they currently have.
that's like saying you can ise visual basic outside of excel, so there's no point in using it in excel
If you're already completely set up in Excel, there's no reason to switch.
If you're set up in LO using visual basic outside of it then that would also mean there's no reason to switch. Either way it doesn't translate to the other.
is there no reason? licensing issues (like certain not so old purchased versions just getting disabled globally)? windows lock-in?
what do you think, how is visual basic used in a spreadsheet? how do you imagine it being used outside of the spreadsheet app?
You're missing the point. Excel works just well enough/LO doesn't have a big enough killer feature for companies to justify the cost of switching.
did you read the article? or at least just tge title?
Yes.
Thanks for spelling-out the stupid for me. My brain was hung-up on the correct way to un-fuck logic I would rather not understand, for a moment. "Too stupid for words" came to mind, and the phrase just sorta ... hung out, wasting time.