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[–] raptir@mander.xyz 187 points 1 day ago (28 children)

Kids these days don't even know about the hole in the ozone later.

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 14 points 13 hours ago

Trump wants to bring it back.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 18 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

We managed to dial things back a bit, so that became a smaller problem.

We used to see regular news reports of actual rivers on fire. Things are still way too bad, but we forcefully throttled some things as we saw how quickly the damage was compounding.

Women’s hair doesn’t defy gravity without lots of help.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 4 points 12 hours ago

Oh my god I needed your comment for it to finally click, I was thinking "they stopped putting their hair up to protect their shoulders from the increased UVs"? But of course, it was referencing the sprays!

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I just told my kid about how we fixed acid rain through regulation just this morning

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 hours ago

I think the only reason it worked was because there were cheaper alternatives to CFCs already available. So it didn't cost them money.

[–] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 37 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Well it's understandable, the concept of being able to actually cooperate and do something about the environment on a world scale instead of just blindly pretending it's not a thing until it kills us all is a bit hard to believe for younger generations for obvious reasons.

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

I don't understand, why would it sound implausible? Isn't that what governments are FOR?

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's what governments are supposed to be for.

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago
[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Not when all governments have been captured by oil tycoons it isn't.

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

Oh. But they were good for this before that, right?

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[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 162 points 1 day ago (9 children)

It's kinda our last big environmental win.

Yeah, last. Not latest, last.

[–] MonkRome@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

iirc ~1/4 of the worlds energy production is renewable. More than 90% of all new electricity capacity worldwide came from renewable sources in 2024. Doomers want you to believe it can't happen again while we are in the very decade that is likely to change the world. Public policy doesn't even matter at this point, renewable energy is cheaper, so nearly all new investments are in renewables.

[–] Ophrys@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Energy sources are only part of the issue (albeit a major one) and enormous damage has already been done to a disastrous point, calling people "doomers" with an intent to ridicule their angst, worries and experiences is akin to climate change denial.

Also, public policy is constantly used in an expensive way if that it suits the ruling classes, markets are not some neutral forces in a vacuum.

[–] MonkRome@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

I'm concerned about climate change. But if you ask most people how much progress we've made they would say "barely any". That belief that we can't do it, is the main thing aside from public policy slowing us down. When people think things are hopeless, they often don't see the point in fighting or changing their behavior. I also think most people don't realize that renewable energy adoption has accelerated so quickly the last few years. Every year we have had massive growth over last year in adoption.

[–] Jako302@feddit.org 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That's only the case because it was the cheapest option available for a while. Oil execs noticed the trend and got cold feet, now a lot of governments are cutting back subsidies for renewables and actively hinder new projects being build. Here in germany we have investors abandoning half build solar parks cause they aren't profitable anymore. At the same time we allow oil companies to bid for gigantic offshore projects just so they can say that they have no interest in actually building it after they won.

With the ozon hole you could see the world working together to fix it despite it beeing somewhat less profitable. With renewables you can see governments actively working against the movement despite it being the best in terms of environment and profits combined.

[–] MonkRome@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Solar is easily the cheapest energy and its getting cheaper every year. Repairing a coal power plant is not as attractive as a much cheaper to run biofuel plant. Etc.

Here in germany we have investors abandoning half build solar parks cause they aren't profitable anymore.

Without knowing the specifics, I doubt profitability was the issue. Once a solar panel is installed it is pure profit with minimal maintenance. Companies get in trouble when they commit way more to a project than they can raise in investments. It seems more likely that is what happened.

Lastly your looking at a few countries that are pushing back with what amounts to theater (Germany is 56% renewable energy). Meanwhile the largest producer of energy in the world, China, is staying committed to converting to renewables and s also 56% of the way there.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

We could stop producing any co2 today and the planet would continue warming for 100 years, it's a pretty tough problem we have on our hands.

[–] MonkRome@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Sure but the problem would be 100 times worse if fossil fuel adoption doest decline. Its good news that we seem to be on the way to shifting our behavior.

[–] Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 88 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

There's been some conservation wins that I know of. Okaloosa Darter fish came off of endangered status, and eventually off of threatened The Red Cockaded Woodpecker was elevated from endangered to threatened a few years ago.

Controlled burns in the US long leaf pine forests have also lead to a return of the quail population.

Just trying to sprinkle a little good news out there.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

American Bison, too. The repopulation of American bison (often mistakenly called buffalo) is one of the most successful repopulation efforts in history. The reason you’re able to order buffalo (again, not actually buffalo) burgers at your local hipster burger joint is because American bison is no longer endangered. The population has come from less than 1000 total bison (all privately owned by a handful of conservationists) to over 400k today.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

I saw on Ted Turner's wiki page that he helped with that.

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[–] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cockaded Woodpecker

Now your just making shit up.

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 21 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Winner of the "most penis euphemisms in one name" award.

Penis McPeniswoodchuck

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

None of that is worldwide.

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[–] DeadDigger@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 day ago

The thing is it kinda isn't. The ozone layer still needs about 20 years to get back to 1960 levels and the number of problematic states for this increasing again

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[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

in australia they absolutely do

we take skin cancer very seriously down here

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Cancer is probably the least dangerous living thing in Australia.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Cancer is living? I gotta get outta here

[–] kalpol@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

Wait till you hear about the guy who caught tapeworm cancer from his cancerous tapeworms

[–] BurgerBaron@quokk.au 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Well not to worry, all these internet swarm satellites might cause another one.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] BurgerBaron@quokk.au 7 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Video overview: https://youtu.be/oKK0dgDIxKY

There's many studies, so here's two:

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2024GL109280

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2025EF007229

Article: https://www.sciencefocus.com/space/how-elon-musks-dying-satellites-could-hurt-the-ozone-layer

tl;dr: the massively increased rate of rocket launches and re-entry satellite burn-ups is creating a significant amount of pollution that is probably damaging the Ozone layer.

[–] unknown@piefed.social 1 points 5 hours ago

The aluminium nanoparticles these satelites shed when they burn up in re-entry during their disposal, are also toxic.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17435390.2025.2511694

[–] yeah@feddit.uk 4 points 11 hours ago

Fucks saaaake.

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