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[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A LWer of the female persuasion makes the entirely reasonable point that most screw-top openings are probably constructed by looking at median male grip strength, not female. But the real fun is in the comments, where people who can post comments on a blog are seemingly unfamiliar with opening jam jars.

Women should be able to open things

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I use grip gloves for opening jars and love them so much. Same ideas as plastic jar grips, but even easier. I find I usually have enough strength but that my skin is too sensitive to fully apply it without grip gloves.

Maybe women just aren’t that into designing programming languages?

James Damore flashbacks ohno

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 1 points 1 day ago

depressing datapoint, this comment was downvoted to the point where it was auto-collapsed yesterday, today it's "only" on -2

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/bB5EDwcYH3GwoRWZf/women-should-be-able-to-open-things?commentId=jZdghN2N6ZopkzwzT

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

But anyways - why is there a vacuum in the jar? To preserve the jam? Isn't jam a preserve? Like, I thought the whole raison d'etre of jam was as a way to make fruit keep, unrefrigerated, through the winter? Why must we preserve the preserve? Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

what is going on with these people i’m so annoyed i’m about to cry

Why do so many containers require women asking a man for help in order to open them? (Or carrying around an opening tool or living in a kitchen?)

how often do you open jam jars outside the kitchen?? it’s not that hard! you don’t actually have to force them open through grip strength like an idiot man!!

[–] maol@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

why is there a vacuum in the jar? To preserve the jam? Isn’t jam a preserve? Like, I thought the whole raison d’etre of jam was as a way to make fruit keep, unrefrigerated, through the winter? Why must we preserve the preserve? Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

I...basic common sense alone would tell you that something with a lot of fruit and a lot of sugar in it might spoil if left open outside of a fridge. Why do these people act like they've never seen a banana before

[–] istewart@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago

why understand biochemistry, if you're part of the cognitive elite who can reconstruct it from first principles should it become necessary

Also, real talk: I got a jar opener when my wife moved in and it is a goddamn revelation how much easier that things makes life. Absolutely recommended purchase. You want to have a sandwich but you closed the jar before you came down with a cold? No worries. You stick the yeast towards the back of the fridge because you haven't made your own bread since you got the cold and that was fuck long ago? Not a problem. You have a third reason why this fucking jar is stickier than you would normally have the capacity to handle (and trust me, you will)? Not anymore you don't.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

But anyways - why is there a vacuum in the jar? To preserve the jam? Isn’t jam a preserve? Like, I thought the whole raison d’etre of jam was as a way to make fruit keep, unrefrigerated, through the winter? Why must we preserve the preserve? Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

this is "fucking magnets, how do they work" translated to rationalist, except that explaining magnets involves quantum mechanics and explaining jam jars involves high school physics (saturated vapor pressure vs temperature. that might be before high school). i also like how one linked explanation sits near two pieces of slop and is wrong

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The comments section really is incredible, the level of ignorance about basic kitchen things, which since it’s womanly knowledge instead of dyson spheres they seem to be completely incurious about …

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

their practical skills are weak, and they won't survive the winter (because they don't know how to make jam)

but frame the same physics in terms of what makes steam turbine spin, and they'll pretend to get it but won't apply it anywhere else. the longer you look the worse it gets. it's like they have never watched how it's made as kids

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

High-status rats have minions to order their lunches, pick up their shopping, and inflate their bike tires and yell at them if they make mistakes https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/BGLu3iCGjjcSaeeBG/related-discussion-from-thomas-kwa-s-miri-research

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

From the post linked therein:

There's this thing Nate and Eliezer do where they proclaim some extremely nonobvious take about alignment, say it in the same tone they would use to declare that grass is green, and don't really explain it.

Gambling? In this establishment?!

Nate thinks in a different ontology from everyone, and often communicates using weird analogies

This feels like a misuse of the word ontology, but what do I know?

when Nate thinks you don't understand something or have a mistaken approach, he gets visibly distressed and sad. I think this conditioned us to express less disagreement with him. I have a bunch of disagreements from his world model, and could probably be convinced to his position on like 1/3 of them, but I'm too afraid to bring them all up and if I did he'd probably stop talking to me out of despair anyway.

Wow, that's a bad research supervisor.

The structure where we would talk to Nate 4h/day for one out of every ~6 weeks was pretty bad for feedback loops. A short meeting every week would have been better, but Nate said this would be more costly for him.

Wow, that's a bad research supervisor.

(Every functional research group I've been part of has had weekly staff meetings. Even the undergrads were encouraged to participate and got at least that much talking time with the professor.)

In my frustration at the lack of concrete problems I asked Nate what research he would approve of outside of the main direction. We thought of two ideas [...] I worked on these on and off for a few months without much progress, then went back to Nate to ask for advice. Nate clarified that he was not actually very excited about these directions himself, and it was more like "I don't see the relevance here, but if you feel excited by these, I could see this not being totally useless".

Wow, that's a bad research supervisor.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 5 points 23 hours ago

This feels like a misuse of the word ontology, but what do I know?

They keep doing it and it drives me mad!! I finally understood that they got the word from computer shit and not philosophy. Isn’t it just amazing? Here we thought they were vaguely aware of established philosophical concepts for a second!

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Nate Soares actually has some work experience at big organizations (NIST, DND, Google, Microsoft) but he clearly is not ready to run a research group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Soares He let the HTTPS certificate for his personal site expire.

[–] maol@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago

D: Not only does this community have a missing stair, but they're all explaining to each other how to avoid the missing stair, and the missing stair is in the chat replying to comments?!

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What The Shit

I've been dating Nate for two years (tho wanna clarify we are not doing marriage-kids and we're both actively looking for more serious other partners).

Nate is profoundly wonderful in many ways, like often surprises me in new ways of wonderfulness, and has raised my standards in partners. He's deeply caring, attentive, competent, hilarious, and of course brilliant.

[…]

Iirc he's explicitly said he doesn't respect my thinking (edit: he clarifies he respects it in some areas but not others)

The way these people are larping conflict resolution is so exhausting aaaaaaa please can you just do normal abuse

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

From elsewhere in the comments:

... I am constantly aware that having an angry outburst is massively socially unacceptable, to the point where if I let such things happen regularly I would lose my job / my standing in the community / all my friends / everyone close to me. This creates an extremely strong incentive for me to self-regulate at least my outward reactions, even when it's really hard. But because Nate is so high-status, he is allowed to make such outbursts without being faced with losing his job, his standing in the community, or his friends. This means he is insufficiently incentivized to self-regulate, and thus has been unable to learn.

High-status? Why?!! Jesus H. Fuck, I hope that if anyone ever gives me a get-out-of-social-consequences-free card, it's for a better reason than my blogging.

[–] maol@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago

So much debate about whether his employer was diligent enough at tyre-pumping when the obvious solution is "pump your own tyres yourself, you buffoon"

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 4 points 2 days ago

Oh and I’m curious now, but can’t be bothered to look it up myself in this slop era,

Has anyone done a men’s vs women’s grip strength study controlling for hand size, height, etc? I’d love to know what the results would be.