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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 81 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I worry about this sometimes. I don't ever want to be seen as speaking "for" minorities I'm not a member of, but I do want to be seen speaking "up for" them. And I worry about finding the right balance. I don't want to speak over them, but do want to help make it clear that I support them and I am opposed to those who are opposed to them. I don't want to be MLK's "white moderate".

[–] Murse@slrpnk.net 10 points 14 hours ago

You don't need to worry about shit. Propaganda like the OP's serves only to make you feel guilty about speaking up, pushing you to become one of MLK's white moderates.

If you're in a position to advocate for a group who's voice is being muffled, do it.

You already know the distinction between that and talking over them - don't let internet bullshit blur the line.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 47 points 1 day ago

I feel that the most important thing is to speak out against the people who oppose minorities' rights. You don't need to speak for minorities to oppose those who oppress them.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 28 points 1 day ago

Don't worry, this is just chud racist propaganda in an attempt to divide the left by race.

Speak truth to power and punch Nazis.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Most folks I know just want you to treat em like people. And if someone's being a dick to the it's certainly right to call it out (and maybe spit on em if the circumstance permits).

[–] BrainBow65@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

I struggle with this too. I'm reading White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo right now though and it's main suggestion is to just oppose racism when you see it. Call white people out on their behavior even if it makes everyone uncomfortable and makes you unpopular.

Also, to listen to feedback from people of color without getting defensive. No one is going to be perfect and we live in a system which is constantly socializing us, it's ok if we fuck up but just try and fix it when you learn better.

[–] compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I heard this once, and it’s stuck with me since: don’t speak for people that you don’t speak to. It helps me remember that I don’t really know the challenges a marginalized community faces if I’m not a part of it, and I should do the work of listening and understanding before inserting myself into a situation with perhaps well-intentioned, but misguided, attempts at helping.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

Enable them to speak for themselves. Be the person that notices they are missing from the conversation and invites them in.

[–] MrSelfDestruct25@fedinsfw.app 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago

You can stand in front as a shield, but only then.

[–] tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Universal concepts, like Justice.

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Careful thinking justice is a universe or objective concept.

[–] tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

I could make the case for systemic racism in the justice system: how and why it happens. But if I dont feel educated enough in that subject to do it justice, I could just say that everybody deserves the right to a fair trial, based on their actions rather than their skin color.