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[–] Hatshepsut@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Unlike Capt. Bonespurs, Mueller enlisted for Vietnam and was a highly decorated Marine.

After waiting a year so a knee injury could heal, Mueller was accepted for officer training in the United States Marine Corps in 1968, attending training at Parris IslandOfficer Candidate SchoolArmy Ranger School, and Army jump school. Of these, he said later that he considered Ranger School the most valuable because he felt "more than anything teaches you about how you react with no sleep and nothing to eat."[27][28]

In the summer of 1968, he was sent to South Vietnam, where he served as a rifle platoon leader as a second lieutenant with Second Platoon, H Company, 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines3rd Marine Division.[10][29] On December 11, 1968, during an engagement in Operation Scotland II, he earned the Bronze Star with "V" device for combat valor for rescuing a wounded Marine under enemy fire during an ambush in which he saw half of his platoon become casualties.[30][31] In April 1969, he received an enemy gunshot wound in the thigh, recovered, and returned to lead his platoon until June 1969.[32] For his service in and during the Vietnam War, his military decorations and awards included additionally, the Purple Heart, two Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medals with Combat "V", Combat Action RibbonNational Defense Service MedalVietnam Service Medal with four service starsRepublic of Vietnam Gallantry CrossRepublic of Vietnam Campaign Medal, and Parachutist Badge.

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Reflecting on his service in the Vietnam War, Mueller said, "I consider myself exceptionally lucky to have made it out of Vietnam. There were many—many—who did not. And perhaps because I did survive Vietnam, I have always felt compelled to contribute."[35] In 2009, he told a writer that despite his other accomplishments, he was still "most proud the Marine Corps deemed me worthy of leading other Marines."

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mueller enlisted for Vietnam

Anyone who would volunteer for that war is a fucking monster.

[–] Hatshepsut@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Mueller has cited the combat death of his Princeton lacrosse teammate David Spencer Hackett in the Vietnam War as an influence on his decision to pursue military service.[24] Of his classmate, Mueller has said, "One of the reasons I went into the Marine Corps was because we lost a very good friend, a Marine in Vietnam, who was a year ahead of me at Princeton. There were a number of us who felt we should follow his example and at least go into the service. And it flows from there."[25] Hackett was a Marine Corps first lieutenant in the infantry and was killed in 1967 in Quảng Trị province by small arms fire.[26]

I was in 1st/2nd grade, but rode the schoolbus with high schoolers in the early 70s. Kids who had relatives drafted. Everyone hated that war but some felt a need to enlist for reasons such as those of Mueller. A good friend of mine enlisted in the Marines 20 years after his uncle was killed in Vietnam, out of a sense of honoring his memory. He is no monster.

[–] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

The logic is a bit weird though. Like picking up smoking out of solidarity because your buddy died of lung cancer.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So he went to Vietnam to avenge another monster who was killed for being an invader?

We'd be better off as a society if every single person who volunteered for Vietnam never came back.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Many murderer, eerrrrr...soldiers, are obviously against your opinion, but without the balls to say so.

And yes, if no nation would find people willing to die for money, errrr freedom'n'stuff, the billionaires would have to fight each other themselves, and then wouldn't.

But there will always be clueless people, indoctrinated by enough bullshit to do so. Probably especially in the USA where the observationally challenged are legion and even wear red hats.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

You aren't wrong!

But, even if you want to give some people the benefit of the doubt because of poor education and indoctrination, Mueller went to Princeton. He wasn't tricked or desperate or clueless; he went to Vietnam knowing exactly what he was signing up for.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space -1 points 20 hours ago

So he was just a terrorist. Got it