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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mueller enlisted for Vietnam

Anyone who would volunteer for that war is a fucking monster.

[–] Hatshepsut@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Mueller has cited the combat death of his Princeton lacrosse teammate David Spencer Hackett in the Vietnam War as an influence on his decision to pursue military service.[24] Of his classmate, Mueller has said, "One of the reasons I went into the Marine Corps was because we lost a very good friend, a Marine in Vietnam, who was a year ahead of me at Princeton. There were a number of us who felt we should follow his example and at least go into the service. And it flows from there."[25] Hackett was a Marine Corps first lieutenant in the infantry and was killed in 1967 in Quảng Trị province by small arms fire.[26]

I was in 1st/2nd grade, but rode the schoolbus with high schoolers in the early 70s. Kids who had relatives drafted. Everyone hated that war but some felt a need to enlist for reasons such as those of Mueller. A good friend of mine enlisted in the Marines 20 years after his uncle was killed in Vietnam, out of a sense of honoring his memory. He is no monster.

[–] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

The logic is a bit weird though. Like picking up smoking out of solidarity because your buddy died of lung cancer.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So he went to Vietnam to avenge another monster who was killed for being an invader?

We'd be better off as a society if every single person who volunteered for Vietnam never came back.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Many murderer, eerrrrr...soldiers, are obviously against your opinion, but without the balls to say so.

And yes, if no nation would find people willing to die for money, errrr freedom'n'stuff, the billionaires would have to fight each other themselves, and then wouldn't.

But there will always be clueless people, indoctrinated by enough bullshit to do so. Probably especially in the USA where the observationally challenged are legion and even wear red hats.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

You aren't wrong!

But, even if you want to give some people the benefit of the doubt because of poor education and indoctrination, Mueller went to Princeton. He wasn't tricked or desperate or clueless; he went to Vietnam knowing exactly what he was signing up for.