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[–] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

Addicted to alcohol: Stop drinking. You can't control an addiction so you have to completely stop.

Addicted to cigarettes: Stop smoking. You can't control an addiction so you have to completely stop.

Addicted to crack: Stop smoking crack. You can't control an addiction so you have to completely stop.

Addicted to food: Must be your fault for being weak-willed. Just don't consume so much of that thing that you're addicted to. You can control your addiction. Just stop being a loser...

The literal solution to every addiction is stop it, cold turkey. One Day At A Time. But you can't stop eating food. You'll die.

So it's as if an alcoholic has to constantly have just a little alcohol. Or a crackhead has to keep smoking crack, but only every once in a while. No problem, just control yourself...

I'm sure telling people that they're pieces of shit for eating food will fix the problem, eventually. We just have to try a little harder.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

That's all true, and it's all pointless.

It doesn't matter whose fault it is or how hard it is. There literally is only one person who can fix your obesity, and it's you. Yes, that's hard. Yes, that sucks. But it's also the only way.

Discussing whose fault it is and what of blame there should be is, at an individual level, completely pointless. There is one person in charge of what you eat, and it's you. Factors may influence it, but in the end, you move the food to your mouth. You are the only person in the universe who can fix the situation, and if you don't, it won't get fixed.

Taking the position that you're a powerless victim of circumstances will just hurt. Admitting that you're obese because you eat too much, and that you can control how much you eat, will help fix your problems.

Every time you hear someone say "it's my thyroid" or "I have PCOS" or "I can't afford the gym", or "I have a food addiction" or "I have BED" as an excuse, you're talking to someone who sees themselves as a victim rather than the person who can fix their problem. All those things might be true, but none of those issues move food into your mouth. You do that, and you can stop doing that because you're a thinking human being and not a seacucumber or a daffodil.

Getting from "I am obese" to "I am keeping myself obese" was very hard too. It requires taking ownership of your mistakes, it requires introspection. And then you go into a long and uncomfortable process of fixing the problem you caused, and it sucks. Losing weight is shit. Feeling hungry sucks, and it sucks 24/7. But damn, losing weight feels amazing and it's all worth it.

[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Thanks for this, I had an idea about food addiction but that explanation puts it in perspective.

Companies also try to make foods as addictive as possible and as flashy as possible. It's like avoiding the constant casino ads as a gambling addict, but you had to keep stepping into a casino every week forever and only doing low bets.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

but you had to keep stepping into a casino every week forever and only doing low bets.

at least 3 times a day, plus once in a while in between, maybe on your phone.

good luck not going bankrupt

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

on top of that, if someone is using excess food to "self medicate" issues like... IDK, anxiety? by forcing the body to go from the Sympathetic nervous system response to the Parasympathetic nervous system response.... yeah. Fun coping mechanism makes one fat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_system#Relationship_with_the_parasympathetic_nervous_system

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasympathetic_nervous_system

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

That's just one approach to addiction. Personally, I think it assumes people are weak with no self-control, which seems to be exactly the argument you're making.

The emphasis on abstinence and any exposure at all being a failure might even make binging more likely if someone gives in just a little, as their counter is now reset, so might as well take advantage.

And the obsession/fascination with the addiction target continues or even gets ramped up.

I like the moderation approach a lot better. I don't binge drink every weekend anymore, but if I do feel like having a drink every now and then, I just do instead of spiraling because I need to treat it like some sort of personal failure.

[–] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The way chemicals interact with dopamine, some of those substances are a LOT harder than others. You just need to change the food you eat. I found fasting easier than meticulous dieting. I had the willpower and was enable to accept the simplicity of simply not eating.

[–] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago

Oh for sure...fasting is waaay easier. That's kinda my point. Fasting is literally not eating.

Unfortunately you can't just do it forever. Well I mean, you can...

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I control my addictions by limiting supply. I buy a fifth of bourbon and a case of beer once a month and that's what I get. If I go on a bender for a week and run out tough shit.

I don't have problems with overeating but if I did my strategy would be to have a limited supply of things I don't have to cook. No chips or soda or sugary bullshit. Just full ingredients that have to be prepped and cooked. When I did cook or order food it would be in an amount that's appropriate. Add friction between me and the things that are a problem for me so it's easier to put off consuming them. Maybe that would work. I don't know.

I also have an abhorrence for delivery services so that helps too.

[–] TwilitSky@lemmy.world -2 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

The bourbon and the case of beer are just empty calories and cancer-causing carcinogens. They're an escape but there are other escapes out there that won't harm you.

[–] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Oooo...Im ready for suggestions too.

I swear to God if you say something about a runner's high or something...

[–] cabb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago

There are a lot of people switching to different drugs like weed that are less harmful than alcohol. Assuming it's the mind-altering effects you're after. Tastiness can maybe be replicated with edibles or infused drinks.

[–] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Well it's individual to the person what makes them happy. I had to try a lot of stuff I was meh about to get there.
If you liked tasting things, why not try your expertise at a chocolate/cheese tasting place. If you enjoyed drunk driving go buy a Tesla which replicates the experience perfectly.

[–] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago

Upvote for the Tesla shade!

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I'm open to suggestions. I've tried weed but it doesn't do it for me. Also alcohol lets me have fun socializing instead of just getting stressed out. I'll take the trade off.

[–] TwilitSky@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Life is not always comfortable but it can get more comfortable provided you make yourself uncomfortable first.

The more crutch you use, the weaker your muscle to deal with these awkward situations becomes.

Don't forget the "why" and ask yourself "what's the worst that could happen" when you reach for alcohol vs simply talking to people and letting yourself naturally settle.