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[–] diemartin@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

He's burning in hell. I'm savoring a delicious onion sandwich in celebration. What could be better?

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 11 points 5 days ago

A hint of brown mustard?

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (5 children)

American here. Why is Churchill burning in hell? He lead your country through WWII and D-Day.

........wait. Are you a nazi supporter?

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He did do that, but was also big racist. Not nearly as motivated as Hitler, but similar viewpoints.

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 4 points 5 days ago

Also helped create the UN, welfare state and a minimum wage.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Churchill had little to do with it, other than not having enough shipping and having to prioritise feeding troops who were fighting Nazis at the time.

Also from your link...

The provincial government never formally declared a state of famine, and its humanitarian aid was ineffective through the worst months of the crisis. It attempted to fix the price of rice paddy through price controls which resulted in a black market which encouraged sellers to withhold stocks, leading to hyperinflation from speculation and hoarding after controls were abandoned. Aid increased significantly when the British Indian Army took control of funding in October 1943

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh, are we gonna get into a pissing contest about which system of government has killed more people?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

No, I was literally just wondering if you had an explanation for it.

People were asking why Churchill was bad. This is a bad thing he did. So unless there is some hidden justification for it, if seems pretty pertinent

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, until the enemy is defeated.

There was no way Churchill was going to allow a Soviet base there. It would have been a massive risk to shipping channels and defence.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Did you even read the article?

Fuck you for defending this shit. You can't even say that the guy did a fucked up thing? Really?

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Do you know what Stalin did with all the war heroes when they got back from war? Killed the fucking lot because he was scared they'd revolt.

Churchill's actions no doubt had negative effects, but the net effect was good.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I don't care what Stalin did, I'm talking about Churchill and his brutal massacre of the Greek Partisans that had literally just played a pivotal role in defeating the Nazis on the isles.

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Churchill didn't massacre anyone you plank. It was the Greek police. Read your own fucking source.

And yes, communism is bad, it's failed in every single country that's tried it with 10s of millions of deaths.

As Churchill said, Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Lol you're right, he didn't personally pull the trigger so it doesn't count. Similarly, Stalin only actually put pen to paper so he didn't kill anyone. Give me a break.

Bootlicker. I'm not even a communist, but I can admit that massacring the people who literally just defeated the Nazis for you (by opening fire on them in public with women and children present) is a really fucking shitty thing to do. And, just a side note, since apparently it matters to you, the Soviets were literally our allies at that time.

If you really can't admit that, then you're a piece of shit. Simple as that.

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Lol you're right, he didn't personally pull the trigger so it doesn't count.

Did you even read the source you provided? The Athens police shot the protestors.

Bootlicker

When you resort to ad hominems, you have lost the debate. But I'm more than happy to trade insults, it's good fun! You are a tankard. A retarded tanky.

You realise that communism had been going on for quite a while by then, and was clearly authoritarian. Russia turned authoritarian literally within hours of the revolution

Go learn some history

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You keep talking to me like I'm defending communism. We're not talking about that. I am not a communist.

I'm convinced that you didn't read the article past maybe the first paragraph if you truly believe that the Athens police are responsible for the massacre. But sure buddy, whatever you need to tell yourself.

You are a bootlicker, plain and simple. Don't care that its ad hominem. You clearly are incapable of criticizing someone with a such a dirty past as Winston Churchill, and I can't for the life of me figure out why. You don't have to fucking forsake your homeland or become a goddamn communist to say "yeah, maybe he shouldn't have done that".

But no, you're just a gross human being.

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

You don't understand anything about geopolitics or history. You present an opinion piece from the guardian as some proof of something

You have a lot to learn.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's kind of disrespectful that you're not only being incredibly patronizing, but you clearly have not even read the article.

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I prefer to read history facts, not feels.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And yet you STILL haven't read the article I posted. Curious.

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've read the rebuttal by the SEVEN greek historians. Have you?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Lol "I found a rebuttal, thank God, so that means I can safely ignore everything in the article!"

Maybe they're not siding with the British story of events, but the anti communist story of events.

After all, that's the most important thing here as you yourself have shown.

If doesn't fucking change the fact that you bent over backwards to defend Churchill before even reading the criticism.

Then, instead of doing any kind of valuable introspection, you searched for anything from anyone else who might say something that contradicts it .

You don't post those contradictions, but you make sure to tell people that you doing SEVEN

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago

Maybe you should read something other than one article to understand the situation?

Greece was a conquered country. They were told to disarm, they didn't, understandably, so they got a few strafings from the air, understandably.

Your position is ridiculous. You are criticising one of the few countries that bankrupted itself defeating fascism. Grow the fuck up

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's not an opinion piece.

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Again, lol, from your source. Try reading it yourself!

Then last month, a leading historian quoted in the piece, André Gerolymatos, held a conference in British Columbia on the issue, inviting one of the co-authors of the piece and some of the academics who had protested to the paper. When it was over, he sent me his analysis, based, he said, on British and American archival sources as well as memoirs and secondary accounts.

He wrote: “Did the British open fire on the demonstrators on 3 December 1944? The answer is no

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/mar/28/readers-editor-on-athens-44-british-army

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm honestly not sure if you're just incapable of reading, but that's not what I posted. It's not even the same URL you fucking dolt.

YOU are posting an opinion piece that was written in response to the well researched article written by Ed Vulliamy and Helena Smith.

They put a link the the opinion response piece you're referring to in that article out of journalistic integrity.

So either you're purposely attempting to conflate the two articles and make the well researched, historically accurate article that I posted out to be some bullshit opinion piece, or you literally cannot read.

So please, I beg of you. READ THE ARTICLE THAT I POSTED YOU FUCKING COWARD.

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

JFC🙂‍↕️🤦‍♂️. Get a grip mate. You had a day to think about this. Your article is not a piece of peer reviewed history. It was rebutted by greek historians, why would they support a British pov? Are you actually retarded?

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

other than not having enough shipping and having to prioritise feeding troops

That is a choice he made, not something that just happened, and it resulted in at least a million (likely many more) civilian deaths in their own territory.

The provincial government

Gee, I wonder who put the provincial government in charge in a British colony? 🙄

[–] deHaga@feddit.uk 1 points 5 days ago

And why did he make that choice?

[–] diemartin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago

Just to clarify, I'm not British.

But what @I_Fart_Glitter said.

[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

Google Churchill and Bengal famine.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 days ago

Lots to choose from, but this is usually the one I like to point to:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/30/athens-1944-britains-dirty-secret