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That's what you're complaining about? You guys are fucking lucky that people aren't just walking up to you and shooting you in the head. It wouldn't be murder either. Murder is killing humans, which you aren't. So, toughen up and piss in a bottle you little bitches.

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[–] PoastRotato@lemmy.world 67 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (5 children)

Fuck ICE, but stop saying they aren't human. For one thing, their cruelty and depravity should stand as a reminder of what the worst of humanity is capable of. But more than that, dehumanization of one's enemy is the first step toward radicalism. How else do you think they came to have their own terrible views?

They weren't born like this. They were made this way.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 2 points 33 minutes ago

Well this begs the question of whether or not radical actions are required at a certain point and where that point actually is. Surely complacency only gets more necks stepped on.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 1 points 34 minutes ago

They weren’t born like this. They were made this way.

And they can be made normal again

Something I struggle with is the fact most murderous Nazis went on to live normal, productive lives

Nuremberg Trials only prosecuted a relatively small number of top ranking Nazis. Many who weren't prosecuted were fervent supporters that killed for the party. Then after the war they went on to reintegrate with society

They lived as bakers, teachers, etc., as law-abiding citizens

It's hard to wrap my head around the fact people could spend a decade willing to commit atrocities. Willing to murder someone simply for their religion/ethnicity. Then they just soend the next couple decades baking bread like a normal person

I'm not saying anything is right or wrong with how that was handled. Just something I've been thinking about

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 40 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I agree. The complacent myth that the Nazis were subhuman monsters and not people like us is part of what got us this resurgence of fascism. We need to admit that the worst people are more like us than we're comfortable with.

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 34 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I sometimes fear that
people think that fascism arrives in fancy dress
worn by grotesques and monsters

as played out in endless re-runs of the Nazis.

Fascism arrives as your friend.
It will restore your honour,
make you feel proud,
protect your house,
give you a job,
clean up the neighbourhood,
remind you of how great you once were,
clear out the venal and the corrupt,
remove anything you feel is unlike you...

It doesn't walk in saying,
"Our programme means militias, mass imprisonments, transportations, war and persecution."

  • Michael Rosen

https://michaelrosenblog.blogspot.com/2014/05/fascism-i-sometimes-fear.html?m=1

[–] Vupware@lemmy.zip 6 points 13 hours ago

If it wasn’t for that click noice meme, I wouldn’t have clicked this. I wouldn’t have read all of this man’s thoughts.

To think he’s been blogging this whole time is unreal.

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They were born humans, but they've surely lost their humanity by now.

[–] PoastRotato@lemmy.world 16 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

People don't stop being people just because they're terrible. That just makes them terrible people. Never forget that the capacity for evil lives in all of us.

Furthermore, the only real purpose of claiming someone has "lost their humanity" is as a justification for treating them as less than human. Which is precisely why you and I despise them in the first place.

[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 11 hours ago

In my culture, being a human and having humanity are two entirely separate things. So I think we agree for the most part.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world -2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

I am merely doing unto them what they have been doing unto us. The saying is "do unto others as you would have done unto you." I'm merely doing that, but from reverse.

dehumanization of one’s enemy is the first step toward radicalism.

Systematically exterminating the cockroaches that is ICE and Republicans might be how we get out of this pit.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 1 points 44 minutes ago

I am merely doing unto them what they have been doing unto us

That's exactly the type of things I hear from ICE and their supporters

Treating the other side as inhuman is a necessity for commutting atrocities

[–] Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I see, so you actually want them to dehumanize you? So you're supporting what ICE is doing?

Because the saying is, with emphasis, "do onto others as you would have them do onto you", i.e. in plain English, "treat others as you would like to be treated yourself". So if you dehumanize them, that means you must like being dehumanized yourself (at least as long as you apply the saying).

I think the saying that fits you more is "eye for an eye", just don't read what comes after.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago

They should be shunned. All these voters too. Don't let kids or pets around them. Treat them as dangerous.