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That's what you're complaining about? You guys are fucking lucky that people aren't just walking up to you and shooting you in the head. They aren’t human.

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[–] PoastRotato@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is it though? One seems more morally justifiable on the surface, but both have the same end result of reducing someone to subhuman status. And that reasoning is almost exclusively used to justify treating people like subhumans.

I'm just saying, we can fight and denounce ICE without adopting their rhetoric and dehumanizing ideals.

[–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Treating someone as subhuman is a wholly separate action from calling someone's actions inhuman. They are not mutually exclusive. I just simply can't agree that calling someone inhuman for their oppressive actions towards another human being is anywhere near the same level as calling someone inhuman for simply existing. I won't do either, but I'm not going to judge someone for doing the former, only the latter.

[–] PoastRotato@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Treating someone as subhuman is a wholly separate action from calling someone's actions inhuman.

Yes, but one definitely leads to the other. The rhetoric informs the action; if one hears something enough times, they may eventually begin to believe it's true.

I just simply can't agree that calling someone inhuman for their oppressive actions towards another human being is anywhere near the same level as calling someone inhuman for simply existing.

Fair enough, we seem to agree on the larger issue here so I won't force the argument. But perhaps you can at least agree that calling those oppressive actions inhuman is directly denying the fact that humans are perfectly capable of such great evils. Which, evidently, they are.

[–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

One CAN lead to the other, its not a foregone conclusion though. I think more often than not calling heinous actions inhuman is more a coping mechanism than anything, because you'd have to be a braindead moron to literally believe there aren't humans behind those atrocities.