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Which is why you train to use your firearm quickly and from inconvenient positions.
Frankly, I just don't agree with the notion that guns are useless within 21 feet. That's cop pseudoscience.
Just because cops are saying it doesn't mean it's not true. There's actual studies on the matter and they've done testing. Drawing a firearm and shooting accurately enough times to consistently disable a human immediately - so at least two shots with handgun calibers - is extremely difficult and cannot be done consistently within that range or closer, and again most self defense starts within or just outside arms reach.
That's a large part of why they themselves teach police basic grappling. Most of them aren't any good at it, but they are still taught it for good reason.
Again, it's a matter of consistency - if you try to draw a firearm when someone has hands on you, they are GOING to attempt to stop or disarm you by grappling you, even if likely in a clumsy untrained way.
Obviously, it's much easier to resist grappling when you yourself know how to grapple. It's a skill, after all.
21 feet might be ideal conditions but if their hands are on you already how the fuck are you getting a gun out and pointing it without surrendering the grapple?
do you have three arms?