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Image is of a harbor in Tasiilak, Greenland.
NATO infighting? You love to see it, folks.
The latest incident of America's satrapies becoming increasingly unhappy about their mandated kowtowing involves, of all places, Greenland. As I'm sure most people here are aware, Greenland is an autonomous territory of Denmark with a degree of geopolitical and economic importance - the former due to its proximity to Russia, and the latter due to the proven and potential reserves of minerals that could be mined there. It's also been an odd fascination of Trump during his reign, now culminating in outright demands.
Trump has called for negotiations with Denmark to purchase Greenland, justifying this by stating that it would be safer from Russia and China under America's protection. Apparently, Norway's decision to not give him the Nobel Peace Prize further inflamed him (not that the Norweigan government decides who receives the prizes). He has also said that countries that do not allow him to make the decision - which not only includes Denmark, but also other European countries - will suffer increased tariffs by June, and that he has not ruled out a military solution.
This threat has led to much internal bickering inside the West, with European leaders stating they will not give in to Trump's demands, and even sending small numbers of troops to Greenland. The most bizarre part of this whole affair is that the US already basically has total military access and control over Greenland anyway, and has since the 1950s, when they signed an agreement with Denmark. There are already several US military facilities on Greenland, and B-52 bombers have famously flown in the vicinity of the island (and crashed into it with nuclear bombs in tow, in fact). Therefore, this whole event - in line with his all-performance, little-results presidency so far - seems to be largely about the theatrics of forcing the Europeans to continue to submit to his whims. I would not be surprised if they ultimately do sign a very imbalanced deal, though - the current European leadership is bound too tightly to the US to put up even half-hearted resistance.
This is all simultaneously occurring alongside the Canadian Prime Minister's visit to China in which longstanding sore spots in their bilateral relationship are being addressed, with China reducing tariffs on Canadian canola oilseeds, and Canada reducing tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles, as well as currency swaps between their central banks, among many other things. It seems no accident that Canada's reconsideration of their relationship with China is occurring as Trump has made remarks about turning Canada into the next US state, as well as the demand for the renegotiation of the USMCA.
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The Zionist Entity's Genocide of Palestine
If you have evidence of Zionist crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.
Sources on the fighting in Palestine against the temporary Zionist entity. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:
UNRWA reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.
English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news.
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon. - Telegram is @IbnRiad.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis. - Telegram is @EyesOnSouth.
English-language Twitter account in the same group as the previous two. - Telegram here.
Mirrors of Telegram channels that have been erased by Zionist censorship.
Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict
Sources:
Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
Simplicius, who publishes on Substack. Like others, his political analysis should be soundly ignored, but his knowledge of weaponry and military strategy is generally quite good.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.
Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.
Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:
Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.
https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.
Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:
Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.
Is this the time for the european left to do left wing nationalism?
Here in the UK the media rhetoric on tv is constantly "we need the US" and "we're too connected". It is becoming abundantly clear to people that we're stuck on a leash.
Surely there's an open door here for a left wing nationalist position to be taken that is essentially "We are a vassal state that is not independent of the US and incapable of making our own decisions because we're too tied to them. We should disconnect from the US and get back our sovereignty."
we had this debate already back in 1914 and the answer is NO
I think Europe's time is kinda done. They're gonna be like the Greek city-states after the rise of Macedonia, a league of nominally independent but wealthy states that gets passed around by Great Powers until eventually one decides to annex them outright.
Can't see the annexation part happening, it's very difficult to do to Europe with languages acting as a cultural fortification. Britain at its peak failed with Ireland and achieved that by replacing the native language. You would have to spread English to the point of replacing national languages in local use. I think that's only true currently of the scandinavian countries. I can't see it happening in Italy, France, Spain or Germany. They would become endless insurgencies. A Greek insurgency under those conditions would be won by the communists. Austria too.
I'm not talking about some kind of mass cultural erasure, just a situation where there's enough autonomy and economic benefit that the nations of Europe just kinda decide that fighting for independence isn't worth it until eventually they just feel like part of the new power, like how Athens ended up being a Roman city for almost 1300 years.
I do think we have to focus on building a left movements on National levels, but those movements should strive for a genuine Pan-European union and should allow members of any Nationality to join, with a plan that is not based on metaphysical thinking, the way Brussels has been going at it.
We should take advantage of the amount of interconnection we already got going on, study what's been failing about it in detail and how to address it.
You can do "nationalism", in that you should give off the impression that you want to make peoples lives better in your country and a way to do that is to use the relevant symbols and language for that, every country probably has unproblematic stuff like that, think Lincon for america, the carnation revolution for portugal, the french revolution for france and so on, idk what the uk has though.
if lincon hadn't been shot you'd be taught how he saved the usa, by sending all the freed slaves back to Africa, and to linconia
the nationionalist question in america must can only be explored through the oppressed Black nation, and the Indigenous tribes. As for much of europe and the west, I struggle to see anything good coming of it (Ireland being an exception, seytler colonies being exceptions). It was different in Russia, a vast empire with dozens of oppressed nations within it borders.
there are good ideas within this piece, you should read it https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm
I think generally, there are four probable paths for Europe,:
How does the left respond to this? Israelification is basically a nightmare scenario for any left wing movement. Joining up with the global south may be tempting, but if the European nations are doing this because they lack hard power and are facing stagnation/decline, that's quite worrying. Becoming like Japan or South Korea can go either way, see the latest elections in both nations. South Korea elect someone more on the left, Japan on the right. A France scenario means the greatest amount of sovereignty, but getting there requires the greatest amount of sacrifice.
Which is why the messaging around realigning away from the US and towards the global south has to be couched in convenience and mutual benefit. So far the European left has only tried scolding moralism and iconoclasm, which most people don't care about and doesn't change their material conditions.
The root cause of the problems of Europe is their chauvinism, and it's the biggest obstacle for any leftist movement to pass.
What about “BRICSification” as a fifth option?
EU is too impotent. They will never get BRICSed up
A France scenario is the best path to the success of European socialism. And it hinges on the success of the left in France, I i think.
Probably, but a fully domestic defence industry and nuclear weapons would require a very high defence budget and lots of technology development (look up the history of Italy's nuclear weapons programme in the 60s and 70s, military spending at 3% of GDP and developing ballistic missiles, without a single nuclear test, just the beginnings of a programme). This is usually very unpopular, for instance Italy is currently spending half that, 1.5% of GDP, on the military.
Europe becoming Argentina 2
I think pan european nationalism is inevitable at this point. It will be the last escape valve for the EU's elites. Even the bureaucratic elite will have to realize that it doesn't really matter to them if Von der Leyen's position is subject to elections in a Federal Europe. The Left will either be ahead of the curve or behind of the curve in this matter.
Pan-European nationalism is a Brussels pipe dream. They have been trying to artificially push that concept for decades, but it will never work. When the crisis gets really bad people will just revert to their individual country nationalism or even further fragmented entities (like the rise of Scottish nationalism in the UK).
The European left has already been dickriding the EU and their utopian pan-European ideology far too long, and all it's done is push the left more into collusion and complicity with neoliberalism while alienating it from the working class.
I don't concur fully. I don't think pan-european nationalism will be on the terms set forth by Brussels or anyone else as in the good old times of common market prosperity. It will be on the basis of racism and the hottest racism right now isn't Spaniards hating Portuguese or French hating Germans. It's right wingers agitating to save pure, white Europa from people more brown than them.
At this point, for Europeans to retreat into their individual country's nationalism then millions of Europeans would have to be expelled from every European country into another European country. It would be like a network of 27 different Brexits and I don't see people agitating for that any time soon, not when there's so many turks, kurds, syrians, algerians, latin americans, indians and so on right there in the neighborhood.
I also don't think there is such a thing as an 'European Left'. It's customary to say such a thing about the US with its Liberal Conservative and Conservative Liberal parties. But Europe neutered its leftists. Gladio happened. What remnants there are of European Leftists may or may not successfully have their input in the barbaric future ahead of them, but that's about it. I don't think they'll be able to control the conversation whichever way they go.
It's not about whether the masses embrace nationalism, it's about the direction that the states themselves take. The national bourgeoisie of European countries, with the overall pie in Europe shrinking, will have no choice but to enter into competition with the national bourgeoisie of other European countries. Already we are seeing various European countries at odds with each other and constantly squabbling and competing over EU resources due to each country having own interests. And the EU, despite its best efforts to stoke up the fear of a common enemy (Russia), has proven incapable of forcing members into complete alignment. The agitation against non-European immigrants will also not be enough to paper over the growing rifts.
considering current configuration, this reads like 4th reich via ukraine pathway
Europe does have a 500 year long tradition of centralizing power on the basis of foreign adversaries. It didn't always succeed, such as in Spain all the way to the 1800s. But it often did, like in Germany and France.
Oppressor nations can't do progressive nationalism. And i doubt most nationalisms in the modern-day are progressive.
You're correct in an environment where the oppressor empire was united but we are specifically talking about that empire splitting.
If you zoom out and picture the empire as one large polity then this is the literal balkanisation of that empire. They may be oppressor nations but encouraging that split is progressive no matter whether or not the country remains shitty and capitalist afterwards.
I'm not understanding your point of view. There's American imperialism, British imperialism, European (mostly Franco-German, with a bunch of junior partners) imperialism, Russian imperialism and so on. All are independent of each other. Imperialists sometimes team up with other imperialists, when they have common goals, and sometimes, they fight each other, when the objectives aren't common.
What Russian imperialism?
This is a very suspicious both sides type of line to take.
Modern Russia is not really capable of much more than slapping and deterring the worst Hitlerite NATO-joining impulses of some of its slated for regime change neighbors like Georgia and the Ukraine invasion is admittedly a bit of a boondoggle that on its own should show you how much of a threat they are considering how long they're taking to deal with an existential threat like that on their border. Yeah they've exerted some influence on countries around them. That's not imperialism, that's something that's been going on pre-capitalism and doesn't meet Lenin's definition. Before the mid 2000s one could argue Russia was still too weak, too corrupt, too reeling from the 90s plundering by the west (when it had been victimized by imperialist powers) and before that they were part of the USSR from 1918 until the 90s came. And before that they got their asses handed to them by Japan doing imperialism against them. Sure there was some 1800s stuff but that's too far removed to qualify for the state that is modern Russia given what it has been born out of and gone through.
Please avoid liberal thought-terminating 'both Moscow and Washington' type takes unless you can support them with evidence.
I feel like I shouldn't have to pull this line on hexbear.net, but can you define imperialism?, thank you
V. I. Lenin, The Proletarian Revolution and the Renegade Kautsky>
What Russian imperialism?
3 of those are the same, deliberately sown together as one empire without a name to hide its nature, colloquially referred to as "the international community", ruled by the international-bourgeoisie. This entity is splitting, but can not do so easily as it is totally entwined.
1 of them is independent of the others. The Russian national-bourgeoisie.
International-bourgeoisie? Russian national-bourgeoisie controlling the Russian state? Are you reading Lenin or Pepe Escobar?
Lenin's understanding of imperialism, while correct in it's time, will lead to incorrect conclusions if you apply it copy-and-paste to today's geopolitical reality without accounting for massive shifts in how imperialism manifests itself. Which is understandable, he was writing over 100 years ago and the world has changed so dramatically in that time. I really don't think even Lenin himself would disagree, if he were alive today (inshallah). In his time, imperialism was defined by various national capitalist powers of very roughly equal strength vying for control over resources, land, and people in the periphery. That rivalry no longer exists, imperialism has gone from a "flat" structure (capitalist powers fighting each other over imperialism) to a "vertical" structure (one capitalist power administering imperialism for the benefit of itself first and others second).
The paragraph right before his criteria for imperialism:
You're going to have to write more than that as you haven't actually said anything other than indicate your disagreement in quite possibly the most combative, bad faith and uncomradely way possible. Short, sound-bitey and snide without actually saying anything at all. I am open to disagreement and conversation about disagreement, I don't see why you need to fight about it.
To give you a run down of what I see in the world today: The current imperialism in the world is administered by 1 country and its vassals (europe et al). Russia is an aspiring imperialist in opposition to this imperialist power, as such it arms and funds anti-imperialists around the world with the goal of dislodging the hegemon so it might one day inherit position as leader of imperialism. Because of this, Russia is essential to anti-imperialist activity but should not be viewed as a friend. Meanwhile China is a sincere communist power walking a tightrope of trying to survive in a world where it doesn't have the material means to swap to a socialist economy (yet), so it generally walks a tightrope of controlling its national bourgeoisie and giving enough candy to the international bourgeoisie (leaders of imperialism) in order to give them a monetary interest to avoid war. This is set against a backdrop where several developing countries of the global south are picking sides (imperialism or anti-imperialism) as they are emerging as lower to middleish powers.
I would be interested in your take. The current western world did not exist in Lenin's time. Things were quite different. Imperialism has advanced considerably since and the imperialist powers were intentionally merged post-ww2 by neoliberalism and through the later efforts of globalisation. Lenin's analysis is correct for his time but does not include what has transpired since.
it's a little inadvisable from economic perspective, being laundering operation is all uk had (well, and rolls royce engines)
We should make nukes and sell them to europe, latam and the middle east.
which are american? bold strategy
Brexit 2
BBRICS
Yeah that is pretty much what I'm thinking but at a european scale. I sorta feel like even libs will get on board with this, it's popular, the US is completely fucking unhinged and getting support for this should be easy. The far right are the only people that won't go along with it.