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[–] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 60 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I think the general idea is that you shouldn’t mess with conservation land. The general public isn’t educated enough to know what is invasive and what isn’t, so the rules say don’t disturb stuff. But if someone who was educated was in the park removing invasive species, they are almost certainly “breaking the rules”, but doing a net positive thing.

So if you see it…you didn’t.

[–] cenzorrll@piefed.ca 1 points 34 minutes ago

Some of it, at least with plants, is that the invasive species has taken over a niche of the native species. So in removing it, you alter the balance of the ecosystem. Native birds in an area may be at more risk than a native bush due to a loss in habitat, so it's better to leave an invasive bush if it provides that need for the bird

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (4 children)

ls "conservation land" something special, then?
English Wikipedia seems not to know it, and dictionary translated it to "Landschaftsschutzgebiet" in my language, which is like the most unprotective "protection" category there is.
Basically you could even build a huge tourist ressort or industrial complex in one of those if you know what you are doing...

[–] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 18 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I’m from the states and I took this as “national park” (or perhaps state) land. It’s land intended for ecological conservation.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It could mean anything from private land with an easement to prohibit building on it to a National Park, depending on context and jurisdiction. It's just a non-specific term for "land that is conserved in some way."

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I guessed that much myself by now.

So there is no deeper meaning but the meme is just crappily ill-defined and because of this actually doesn't make sense.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean, it's sufficiently descriptive to imply that randos shouldn't (ordinarily) be messing with the plants on it. As a native English speaker, it makes sense just fine.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

randos shouldn't (ordinarily) be messing with the plants

But the meme doesn't talk about randos.

It specifically mentions the meme creator seeing someone "cleaning invasives", implying that all people involved have some level of competence and know what's going and that there isn't any reason to pretend to be a blind pirate.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

That's what makes them the exception that shouldn't be reported.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

The nomenclature is really messy across countries and even sub-country entities. The Portuguese language Wikipedia even highlights the mess:

Nomenclature diversity across countries. // Some surveys estimate protected areas in different countries and regions are called by at least a hundred names, and not uncommonly countries have their own categories of protected spaces, roughly similar to the protected space concept defined by the IUCN.

From that I guess the restrictions associated with those spaces also change, and in some you aren't supposed to remove local fauna and/or flora, creating situations like in the meme (removing invasive species is against the letter of the rule, but within the spirit).

[–] Coldmoon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Try using context clues for a brief second

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I did, even did some additional research trying to clear up ambiguous terms (what's a "conversation area"?) and looked up rules in another country (US) that was referenced by a less confused person.

Meme still doesn't make sense.
Should even be the complete opposite.
If you recognize it, report invasive species!

If there are hidden context clues I missed, please point them out to me, so that I will learn why I am the moron and not some of the others here that post stuff that just don't make sense given the facts.

Is the original post perhaps satire of some kind?

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Are you satire of some kind?