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[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

OK...
But would it be a problem if I did?

Or are there areas to protect invasive species? I don't think that's a thing?

So, still don't get it.

[–] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 58 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I think the general idea is that you shouldn’t mess with conservation land. The general public isn’t educated enough to know what is invasive and what isn’t, so the rules say don’t disturb stuff. But if someone who was educated was in the park removing invasive species, they are almost certainly “breaking the rules”, but doing a net positive thing.

So if you see it…you didn’t.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (4 children)

ls "conservation land" something special, then?
English Wikipedia seems not to know it, and dictionary translated it to "Landschaftsschutzgebiet" in my language, which is like the most unprotective "protection" category there is.
Basically you could even build a huge tourist ressort or industrial complex in one of those if you know what you are doing...

[–] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 17 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I’m from the states and I took this as “national park” (or perhaps state) land. It’s land intended for ecological conservation.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It could mean anything from private land with an easement to prohibit building on it to a National Park, depending on context and jurisdiction. It's just a non-specific term for "land that is conserved in some way."

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I guessed that much myself by now.

So there is no deeper meaning but the meme is just crappily ill-defined and because of this actually doesn't make sense.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean, it's sufficiently descriptive to imply that randos shouldn't (ordinarily) be messing with the plants on it. As a native English speaker, it makes sense just fine.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

randos shouldn't (ordinarily) be messing with the plants

But the meme doesn't talk about randos.

It specifically mentions the meme creator seeing someone "cleaning invasives", implying that all people involved have some level of competence and know what's going and that there isn't any reason to pretend to be a blind pirate.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

That's what makes them the exception that shouldn't be reported.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

The nomenclature is really messy across countries and even sub-country entities. The Portuguese language Wikipedia even highlights the mess:

Nomenclature diversity across countries. // Some surveys estimate protected areas in different countries and regions are called by at least a hundred names, and not uncommonly countries have their own categories of protected spaces, roughly similar to the protected space concept defined by the IUCN.

From that I guess the restrictions associated with those spaces also change, and in some you aren't supposed to remove local fauna and/or flora, creating situations like in the meme (removing invasive species is against the letter of the rule, but within the spirit).

[–] Coldmoon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Try using context clues for a brief second

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I did, even did some additional research trying to clear up ambiguous terms (what's a "conversation area"?) and looked up rules in another country (US) that was referenced by a less confused person.

Meme still doesn't make sense.
Should even be the complete opposite.
If you recognize it, report invasive species!

If there are hidden context clues I missed, please point them out to me, so that I will learn why I am the moron and not some of the others here that post stuff that just don't make sense given the facts.

Is the original post perhaps satire of some kind?

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Are you satire of some kind?

[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz -1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

I am assuming "conservation areas" in this sense means native/indigenous lands

edit: Whoops I am wrong. Ecological conservation then. I thought invasive species were bad for those?

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You are probably confusing it with "reservation".

[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 2 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

idk I was just guessing. I don't see how the joke with ecological conservation (since getting rid of invasive species is good, right?)

[–] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Usually, on land that is intended to be preserved, they don't want random people hacking away at vegetation, so they will have rules about it. If a park ranger or someone like that sees you cutting down trees or whatever, you are probably going to get yelled at or fined or something.

It's also highly dependent on species and location. Some invasive species will basically multiply if you try to tear them out, either resprouting vegetatively, or through seed spread. Species like tree-of-heaven or paulonia also become huge trees, so they probably don't want you cutting those down.

Some places like Oahu are basically 95% invasive species, so if you remove that, you have nothing left. Oahu is basically all guava and mesquite trees, and without that, the soil washes away, and there's no hope of recovery, so invasive management needs to be done in consultation with experts.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 hours ago

Same here.
Meme is imho somewhat crappy and certainly to un-scientific to be under "science memes".

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago