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keeping species from going extinct is important because humanity destroying biodiversity and doing irreparable damage to the biosphere is bad. what is the point to keeping purpose-bred subspecies from going extinct? they can't be released into the wild, because that will cause more damage (see what rats, dogs and pigs have done when introduced by humans to new environments for example). why should we keep breeding dairy cows and chickens after their respective industries have been abolished? infinite animal sanctuaries for eternity? chickens that mature in an unhealthily short time and destroy their own bodies to produce eggs must be bred forever?
That's pretty much my idea. Let them back into the cycle of natural selection, they'll breed out unhealthy genes they are currently saddled with naturally and find a new equilibrium with the environment they are in.
by animal sanctuaries i didn't mean wildlife refuges, but farm animal sanctuaries as they exist now: big farmland type spaces where animals rescued from the animal industries can live their lives freely with help from humans.
by the way, most animals that are exploited for food still exist in their wild species form: jungle fowl (chickens), ibex (goat), wild boar (pig), mouflon (sheep) and they are suited for the environments they live in. (the big exception is aurochs (cattle) which is extinct) i prefer protecting these, instead of trying to rewild the subspecies that have been bred to produce as much food for humans as possible
Well what I have in mind is more along the lines of a wildlife refuge. Perhaps a middle industry would need to be created, something to "rehabilitate" livestock animals back into living in the wild, but we're describing the challenges of such an endeavor, not the reason why it shouldn't be undertaken.
I said it in my other answer but it's because I view them as equally valid forms of life as any other. Also paraphrasing my other answer: what you're describing are challenges to be overcome, not reasons why the task shouldn't be undertaken. Perhaps some problems must be bred out intentionally before an animal can be released, perhaps the animal sanctuaries for feral populations would have to be protected from predators in some way, I'm not advocating for dumping the mass of them in the woods and seeing what happens, I'm advocating for taking responsibility, and I view killing them all off as soon as they've outgrown their usefulness as an abandonment of that responsibility. As for resources - you opened this thread by describing an entirely vegan world, so I don't exactly feel burdened in this hypothetical by what is feasible from where I'm standing within the society I currently inhabit.
I'm disengaging.
and the responsible thing to do is to sterilize and stop breeding
And I view that as abandoning that responsibility.
There's no responsibility to the unborn who will never be born. This is basically the stupid christian argument against abortion.