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[–] hellinkilla@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But don't you teaching toddlers writing is cultural, not natural or to be assumed? That's why sesame street was made as an intervention to teach letters and other things. Not everyone is motivated or knowledgeable on how to teach literacy. Assuming parents are literate in any language much less English. Its November, kids have been in school for 2 months.

And people's names are not exactly equal to each other in difficulty. Some people have many names, or they are extremely long, complex, having clumsily romanized spellings, or unique among their peers. Or their name at home is completely different than name at school. Do you think its fair to expect everyone to pick it up at the same speed given diversity of home environments?

I actually do think at the end of the day, it is the schools job and not the parents to teach writing. And to peek in on general development and offer support. I think phones could be substantially changing how all that is done but this particular post is as you say, bullshit. Somebody's fantasy.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Assuming parents are literate in any language much less English.

86% of the worlds adult population is literate which is the vast majority. No one said anything about English. I learned how to write my name in Farsi first. Once I knew how to write in Farsi learning English was much easier since most of the skills in writing are completely transferable. Spending time with your children and showing them their name and practicing writing is fun and something people are capable of.

Not everyone is motivated or knowledgeable on how to teach literacy.

Teaching 4 year olds how to write their names is really not a huge lift, Sorry, I don't agree. You should be motivated to spend time with and educate your children and family members. If you lack adults able and willing to do this it is extremely problematic and possibly abusive. It should be attended to in school and they need to be tooled to help people with special needs but this should absolutely not be the majority or expectation.

Do you think its fair to expect everyone to pick it up at the same speed given diversity of home environments?

Writing your name is not that difficult and most kids enjoy learning. Not everyone will be able to and that's ok, but most people should be.

I actually do think at the end of the day, it is the schools job and not the parents to teach writing.

I vehemently disagree. It is in fact a parents job to educate their children to the best of their ability. Schools are tooled to make up for gaps not do everything. They should be able to focus on the percentage of people who are unable to and give them extra attention not do everything for everyone.

[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You should be motivated to spend time with and educate your children and family members. If you lack adults able and willing to do this it is extremely problematic and possibly abusive.

While I agree with you overall I don't think you'll get much traction here with that framing. I doubt any meaningful proportion of parents are failing to spend time with their kids willingly; more likely is that both parents need to work long hours just to make ends meet. That's a broader social failing, not abuse.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Child neglect is abuse though. There are people who refuse to pay attention to or care for their children, my dad was a good example of this. For the rest it is abuse by the system.