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Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Teachers/comments/1p48x0x/can_anyone_confirm_are_modern_students_really/
Turns out that capitalism in decay produces an environment which is actively harmful to human growth and flourishing. Who could have predicted that?
Skeptical about the screenshot. And rest of thread.
The teacher was unable to locate a red object in a kindergarten class?
Isn't that what school is for at this age? Surely its not assumed that the majority of children can spell before going to kindergarten at age 4 or 5.
Here is a kindergarten writing curriculum I found: https://www.wpschools.org/cms/lib/NJ01001331/Centricity/Domain/4/K%20Writing.pdf By the end of November, expectations:
If this is supposedly an inside baseball forum for people who are professional teachers, why are they not discussing the sorts of things which are reasonable goals? I would expect to see stuff about assessment tools/criteria, milestones etc.
I don't believe that phones can cause parents to delay toilet training for years. What is the proposed mechanism for assuming such cost (diapers) and inconvenience (laundry and mess)? How do phones make that less annoying.
I don't buy that this could be ubiquitous among poor people or people who work long hours.
yeah this smells like bullshit to me too.
Kids should know how to spell their name by age 4 and definitely by 5 barring some kind of learning disability. Typically kids go to kindergarten with some knowledge of letters and writing. They do not need to know how to write pretty much anything else besides their name though so the writing curriculum you pulled isn't really applicable to just their names. Most kids are taught the letters and phonics of their names from a very early age and is the entry point into writing.
edit to add: I agree tho this post is BS lol
But don't you teaching toddlers writing is cultural, not natural or to be assumed? That's why sesame street was made as an intervention to teach letters and other things. Not everyone is motivated or knowledgeable on how to teach literacy. Assuming parents are literate in any language much less English. Its November, kids have been in school for 2 months.
And people's names are not exactly equal to each other in difficulty. Some people have many names, or they are extremely long, complex, having clumsily romanized spellings, or unique among their peers. Or their name at home is completely different than name at school. Do you think its fair to expect everyone to pick it up at the same speed given diversity of home environments?
I actually do think at the end of the day, it is the schools job and not the parents to teach writing. And to peek in on general development and offer support. I think phones could be substantially changing how all that is done but this particular post is as you say, bullshit. Somebody's fantasy.
86% of the worlds adult population is literate which is the vast majority. No one said anything about English. I learned how to write my name in Farsi first. Once I knew how to write in Farsi learning English was much easier since most of the skills in writing are completely transferable. Spending time with your children and showing them their name and practicing writing is fun and something people are capable of.
Teaching 4 year olds how to write their names is really not a huge lift, Sorry, I don't agree. You should be motivated to spend time with and educate your children and family members. If you lack adults able and willing to do this it is extremely problematic and possibly abusive. It should be attended to in school and they need to be tooled to help people with special needs but this should absolutely not be the majority or expectation.
Writing your name is not that difficult and most kids enjoy learning. Not everyone will be able to and that's ok, but most people should be.
I vehemently disagree. It is in fact a parents job to educate their children to the best of their ability. Schools are tooled to make up for gaps not do everything. They should be able to focus on the percentage of people who are unable to and give them extra attention not do everything for everyone.
While I agree with you overall I don't think you'll get much traction here with that framing. I doubt any meaningful proportion of parents are failing to spend time with their kids willingly; more likely is that both parents need to work long hours just to make ends meet. That's a broader social failing, not abuse.
you accidentally replied to your own comment i think. tagging @hamid@crazypeople.online so he can see your reply