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[–] djdarren@piefed.social 108 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

I would say that the US is a very weird place, but then I remembered that this

is the flagship of the ~~British Navy~~ First British Sea Lord. She hasn't floated for literally 100 years.

So mostly I guess it's just that militaries are weird.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 82 points 1 month ago (3 children)

There's also a statue of George Washington in England. Except the US shipped a bunch of dirt all the way across the Atlantic from Virginia so he would technically not be standing on British soil.

Humans do weird shit just to make a statement.

[–] affenlehrer@feddit.org 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Dracula did the same when he moved to England

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But is Dracula twelve stories high and made of radiation?

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] klugerama@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I heard that motherfucker had, like, 30 goddamn dicks

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

He was a gundam.

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I heard... that... motherfucker had, like... thirty goddamn dicks.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 16 points 1 month ago

"What do we do with all this rubble and old dirt?"

"Ship it to the UK and call it patriotism"

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago

The state is entirely based on lies and delusions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The USS Constitution is still fully crewed, floats, and occasionally fires a few cannon shots.

Keeping history around isn't weird. Though I do think it should be contextualized.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The Constitution is also the only ship in the current U.S. fleet to have sunk an enemy vessel, having defeated and burnt HMS Java in 1813.

Her nearest competition was decommissioned in 2015.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 7 points 1 month ago

Used today primarily for ceremonial and educational purposes, only 10–15 percent of the frigate actually dates to the original construction due to centuries of repairs and restorations.

The USS Theseus?

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You're telling me no ship in the current fleet besides that old ship has sunk an enemy vessel?

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I guess it's because technically the US hasn't been at war since WW2, and so ships sunk since then were not considered enemy ships. Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Gulf, and Iraq were all technically not wars but just "special military operations" or whatever. Where do you think Putin gets most of his aspirations and ideas?

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The last ship to sink an enemy vessel was the USS Simpson in the 1988 Iran-Iraq war, which retired in 2015. Every conflict after has not had any naval combat resulting in a loss of vessel.

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's very surprising to me. Do they not count random pirate boats and so, or did they really sink no vessels at all since then?

[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

I think many of the actions have been against what are considered non-state actors. So I think it’s just what’s considered an “enemy vessel”

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

They do not count anti-pirate operations, the US Navy has never counted anti-pirate operations.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

What about all those Venezuelan ships?

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

They focus mainly on murdering innocent civilians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

[–] HearTwoTalk@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Seeing her out of her slip is kind of weird. She was accompanied on either side by tug boats, like an elderly person escorted by nurses or family members fearful they may fall over.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

US Navy sails the Constitution up to a Russian submarine.

Fires full broadside.

Refuses to elaborate.

Leaves.

[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

Ukraine credited with sinking another Russian submarine

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ah, I'm mostly joking. Victory is a really cool museum, almost as cool as the wreck of the Mary Rose that's displayed in a building next to her.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Militaries see a lot of value in convincing their members that they'll be remembered after dying.

[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Some good things have happened because people sacrificed themselves for the greater good.

Do I wish this wasn't necessary? Fucking of course.

But history doesn't repeat itself so much as humans just don't change.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Some good things have happened because people sacrificed themselves for the greater good.

We're talking about the US here. It's mostly about the greed, slavery, oil or invading farmers.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'll assume that you're talking about Luigi Mangione (allegedly) and move on.

[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I was thinking of some of the Revolutionary War soldiers, actually and the allies fighting Nazi Germany.

Not really sure where Luigi came from.

[–] napoleonsdumbcousin@feddit.org 20 points 1 month ago

Small correction: The HMS Victory is the flagship of the First Sea Lord. The current Royal Navy Fleet Flagship is the aircraft carrier HMS Prince of Wales.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is she not beautiful? Do her curves offend your insecure masculine sensibilities?

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

She's too beautiful. So beautiful in fact, that I am now banned from Portsmouth Historic Dockyard.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 1 points 1 month ago

For shame, for she has many suitors but not nearly enough who will polish her portholes

[–] buffing_lecturer@leminal.space 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I somehow never considered that there were literal flagships.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

The USS Enterprise (pretty much any of them, including nonfiction) have been flagships.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The fleet flagship of the Royal Navy is currently HMS Prince of Wales.

The Royal Navy flagship is HMS Excellent (which is an island, not a ship).

Victory is the flagship of the First Sea Lord, and also has the largest crew of any vessel in the navy, as personnel are assigned to her on paper by default until transferred to an active unit.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Every state is based on total bullshit. That's part of why the state is garbage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah that's weird. You gotta keep your wooden boats in the water like we do. Our navy owns a forest for repairing our stupid wooden ship

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago

When they took our wooden boat out of the water it turned out that she'd hogged by around 500mm. Which is quite a lot for a boat. In fairness, she was 150 years old by that point.

Now there's a vast system of hydraulic rams supporting her in the dry dock, to the point that they reckon she's better supported now than when she was afloat.