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I see more negativity about Mamdani winning than I have seen about ICE raids lol
Hexbears falling over themselves to be correctly pessimistic and cynical:
Hexbear be like:
GOOD THING: BAD
What a bunch of fucking rubes!
that's me on the left ngl. I just don't want gringos to have nice things, whats wrong with that?
I personally think it would be good for everyone to have nice things, and also NYC is over 1/4 Latin, not to mention millions of people who aren't white and only a minority who are. Also, maybe this is just me, but I think everyone should have nice things.
As a mexican, i have more in common with a fella from India than a latin from NYC lol.
Over a third of NYC residents are immigrants
I have good news for you about social democrats
Actually I welcome that perspective
0% chance he actually does any of that lol. he's obama all over again
What else do you see in your crystal ball?
the apparatus of capital arrayed against him
Free busses, refusing to raise price of rent stabilized apts and expanding an already existing childcare program are well within the realm of possibility. Hes not trying to abolish the police or Mao all the landlords . Yall say hes lying bout the good things he's been focused on, i think he was more likely lying about "playing nice" with zionists.
As much as I would like to hear a politician be like "death to amerikkka!" I also understand its not a winning campaign strat.
That's because it's a website for libs
which one
Yes.
THIS. Genuinely feels like something is very off here.
Optimism waves are difficult to handle when people are struggling, specially when left without an outlet to channel that frustration into something that would advance their own lives being better.
I think of how difficult it is for myself to stay positive when the local orgs I've reached out to have no use of me and all I can really do is write letters to people or something like that, in order to agitate them and make them think a little hopefully, through a one person operation.
I get it. Am a teacher in a deeply red area. Trust me, I feel the frustation of having no organizing outlet. But it just feels like doomerism to scold people for having any hope.
I think you're right. Educating people on the flaws on electoral politics is one thing, but being outright mean to them is hinging on being reactionary.
Honestly, the relatively little coverage of the ICE raids on this site has been really weird
Seriously it seems odd that the doomers are so focused on the one good thing thats happened rather than the constant deluge of atrocity.
If videos were easier to post/embed I would repost footage here but I'm not sure how to get it to play properly.
eh, a loooooooot of the doom/depression posts here from US users are undergirded by fear and despair around the imperial boomerang creating man made horrors beyond comprehension domestically, ICE being emblematic of that. this reads as a bit of a strawman to me. most people seem soft pro-Zohran, but hexbear is (still, to my knowledge) a majority ML space so varying amounts of skepticism around the current face of the democratic party entryist movement should be expected.
Nobody is saying the ice raids are a victory for socialism
that's because no one's getting way too optimistic about ice raids on this website lol
Noone’s saying anything about ICE raids
Someone posted about ice raids starting in their community and asked for advice. Got a bunch of answers too
I made the comment before that was posted but I get your point