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that's my argument. i challenging this assertion.
Hitler also claimed to be fighting for the working class of Germany sometimes, when he thought it would get him support. Your argument is bad.
come on. there's a world of difference and especially hindsight.
again, bringing it back: our options are: (1) bluedog shitass, (2) this dude.
idk. again: blackwater? THE FUCK?????? his tattoo? THE FUCK?????? but counterarguments would be his reddit account when he's posting shit not knowing ppl would read/accountable eventually.
given that, totality of facts, i'll take my chances on (2)
No one is forcing you to vote, this is just a worse version of the vote for Kamala argument where Kamala was a Waffen-SS tattoo. You are embarrassing yourself and any political movement that supports this man will be harmed by it.
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i mean yes. you're correct and i agree. but that's not the point or even relevant to my argument
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tfw the only activism you do is fucking electorism
sorry i'm being aggressive and uncharitable. but you know my argument. don't be bad faith in response.
we live in the world we live in. the world we live in is choices between a right wing fucking shitass bluedog, or this dude. i'll take my chances on this dude. and "my chances on this dude" is not the only thing i do to pursue a better world.
just to make it very clear, the choice you're describing is one between a right wing bluedog and an unrepentant war criminal with a nazi tattoo
and you would choose the nazi tattoo?
this is edgy and narrowly framed.
how would you summarize a former marine who, after multiple tours in Iraq, became a blackwater mercenary and has a totenkopf on his chest?
a shithead piece of shit.
But how is that any different from the argument Kamala Harris was using against the left in 2024, other than that she didn't have the liberalism skull literally tattooed on her chest? That's Vote for 99% Hitler to stop 100% Hitler and you know for a fact that this one is Certified Hitler. You should really read more about this scandal and the extent of it before taking a position like that. This is Day 2 of 𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓐𝓵𝓵𝓮𝓰𝓪𝓽𝓲𝓸𝓷𝓼. Day 1 was his reddit history, Day 2 is his giant Nazi tattoo that he has had for 19 years and his defense of other marines getting other Nazi tattoos as an exclusive club, Day 3 will not be the kind of thing you want to attach your name to as if you have anything to gain from supporting him. He's literally just a Nazi mercenary who even has other primary contenders you could just be jumping behind if you read about this first.
Yeah lol, this is more like supporting Certified Hitler over Maybe Kind Of Like Hitler because he might do some social democratic reforms.
those are the options.
I refuse to believe you are not doing a bit here.
Edit: I removed it before the other user replied, but I had another sentence saying that "Certified Hitler" here was the guy with the SS tattoo. Adding it back in this edit so that eir reply makes sense.
that's the factual disagreement.
friend. like fuck. i've spent more than 10 minutes writing responses to this and i don't give a fuck anymore. do whatever you want. i don't care
OK. Comrade, I think we have a disagreement here that won't be resolved in this thread and I don't want to continue to contribute to what's clearly a stressful and unpleasant discussion for you. Let's agree to disagree.
ok you're right i'm convinced i'll start volunteering for janet mills and susan collins
Come with me though the looking glass. I'm going to suggest to you that the Nazi SS tattoo on the ex-Blackwater Nazi SS tattoo guy is probably only the tip of the iceberg.
honestly i don't really follow
we have his reddit account so we've seen the "iceberg"
but again: a rightwing democrat v. a republican nazi fuck (worst case.) i see no difference. at least there's a chance he's not like that
Bless your heart.
ok you're right i'm convinced i'll start volunteering for janet mills and susan collins
It's probably a toss up between Susan Collins or Janet Mills anyways, treat whether the jarhead will sink or swim in the election as a theatric performance. I'm personally in a coin toss right now on whether or not its gonna be the DNC or GOP that'll run ads talking about the guy's tattoos or not.
Now THIS is QUALITY TELEVISION.
primary is in half a year, random dude bro not involved in blackwater is probably better by that point.
He was a boy in his mid-30s when he joined Blackwater in 2018. Don't let perfect mercenaries be the enemy of good mercenaries.
give ppl another option then...
like ffs. the choices are set in stone. bluedog or this dude. those are the options.
jordan wood is already in the race, upon googling? not blue dog at least, just a lib fighting corruption.
that aside, correct leftist electoral tactics is to teach dems to eat shit and vote third party to throw winnable elections between hitlers (unless candidate is like good), and own it, not slither away when they start talking about ralph nader
i mean, be real, what possesses someone to tour not once, but several times in iraq, join pmc and advocate for better military spending. it's like settlerman x3, because his brain is not melted, so he can understand language of bribes and appearances, instead of ogre smash by settlerman
idk. i know you're not arguing accelerationism but it reads like that. wdym?
this is the big factual disagreement. i disagree. or at least, i'm willing to take a chance v. a verified bluedog shit.
put another way: guaranteed fetterman v. someone else.
it's brinkmanship/blackmail, you threaten their good time by willing to weather "bad time" (debatable until trumpo how internal bad times really were, this side of structural forces) of their non-preferred outcome, it's like whatever for emperor of earth called president, but in local elections? when every single senator is a demon? when like 1-3 decent people are in house?
like if third party was able to consistently pull 2-3% everywhere, and then selectively retreat upon concessions in some races (stated beforehand which concessions they are seeking), it's how you wield influence being a tiny minority, instead of blue no matter who.
in primary, again, aside from words, actions of mr. mercenary are worse than his opponent, so why, again, bother with him?
(and isn't maine ranked choice, or is it general?)
(leaving aside the dreaded optics of a guy with tottenkopf advocating for palestine, can you even imagine?)
ok you're right i'm convinced i'll start volunteering for janet mills and susan collins
explain like im not an american, why in 6 months before primary, jordan wood is unelectable?
you ever try to win a 100m sprint while giving them a 20 second head start?
one mr. mamdani managed to do it, so it's not unfeasible in the realm of politics. it can be done. so again, why him?
The alternative is writing in Mao Zedong like every other user does from chapo dot chat
Unironically more productive than voting for this nazi. Defending this guy will ensure that "Democratic Socialists" can be (actually fairly) smeared as nazi apologists by their opponents. It's obviously terrible politics.
Super serious socialists on this site saying stuff like "what am I gonna do, not vote?"
i did that tho
Now this is wrecker shit because they're using an alt and popped back into their OG account to stir the pot.