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[โ€“] lilypad@hexbear.net 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

::: spoiler i am not an identity state

Hearing people talk about their identity is great! Other people expecting me to produce an identity is fucked. I am not a stative identity. Stative identity is bullshit. I am actions (well, lack thereof). How do people make these statements about themselves? Like, i only do it because people expect a statement, people expect a label, people expect me to be an identity. But im not an identity state, im an identity process.

What i mean is, i am not a woman. I woman (verb). I am not a lesbian. I lesbian (verb). I am not a cyclist. I bike. I am not a gamer. I game. I am not a musician. I play music. I am not. I do. I am not a sub. I enjoy submitting. These statements of identity as a state one is in, they do not make sense. There is no thing. There is only isness.

[โ€“] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 4 months ago

I'm deluzianian all up in here.

spoilerI don't tend to operate on that abstract level, I'm way more instinctive and embodied and trust my gut when she says "I am a woman" or "I am a nurse" or "I am creative" etc

I do agree that who you are and what you believe is told by actions and that can be in tension or contradiction with what people say they believe (even only to themselves).

Its a neat way to think of yourself as a process~

[โ€“] SwitchyandWitchy@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago

I love this post, extremely well put cat-trans

[โ€“] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

Identity for me is a label, a description of some group of traits. I'm trans because I have dysphoria and need to change how I am and how people perceive me. I'm an atheist because I don't believe in a god or gods. I don't necessarily like, identity as those things, I just am them. I fit into the box they describe.

[โ€“] dandelion@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

tbh, static identity statements / concepts are so common for pragmatic reasons, the way they are used aren't intended to imply some deeper metaphysical truth - lots of language works this way, communication is pragmatic more than it is precise or true (logical positivism died for reasons)

[โ€“] lilypad@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

Like, yeah, i get that its practical, but it also boxes me in, and most importantly it fundamentally isnt true, at least to my eyes. If i say im a thing, people expect me to perform their idea of that thing. Im not wanting to do that, so they say oh youre not that thing, youre something else, or your a poser, or whatever. They dont know what to do with me. Like, when i talk to people i use the language, but that doesnt make it true and doesnt mean that im that thing. Idk im probably not making a ton of sense. I guess what im saying is that it socially, the stative identity starts as a descriptor but quickly becomes a prescriptor, at least in my experience vivian-shrug