After the suspected shooter has been detained, the FBI held a press conference to report on the case and announce the next steps going forward. Spoiler: we, as leftists, are fucked.
Key points:
- The shooter is Tyler Robinson of Utah.
- His friend reported him to the FBI.
- Tyler's Discord messages have been used as evidence, as provided by his roommate.
- ~~Robinson has been reported to be getting increasingly political, and during dinner one day, he spoke about how Kirk was "full of hate".~~ UPDATE 4: Tyler did not say that.
- The casings do not contain any trans references. But they do have anti-fascist rhetoric (bella ciao and "notices bulges OwO" included) and symbols engraved in them.
- Tyler was taken into custody on September 11th, 10 PM local time.
- The investigation is still ongoing.
- One guy cried while speaking.
- Thousands of more leads of potential accomplices are being followed.
- No other arrests are known
- Tyler drove to campus on a car.
- It's not known if Tyler is mentally ill.
- The charging documents will be filed 3 days from now (September 16), then a preliminary hearing will take place.
(Added by LangleyDominos)
- Patel awkwardly trying to signal the Norse viking larp shit. "Charlie, I'll see you in Valhalla"
- Utah Governor Cox told everyone to log off and stop consuming rage bait, called social media a cancer, and that everyone should "touch grass" (his actual words).
UPDATES
- ~~UPDATE 1: Tyler apparently donated to TRUMP??? WHAT~~
- UPDATE 2: ignore update 1
- UPDATE 3: new link to donations check (POTENTIALLY MISLEADING!!!)
Tyler Robinson's mugshot
Other sources:
this isn't antifa. lol.
bella ciao is a nick fuentes thing used to mock antifa (edit: they are trying to co-opt the song to mock leftist. zero chance some random idiot kid in Utah knows what that song is outside of being a groyper edit: the song is on the groyper war playlist #14. LOL )
bulges OwO is mocking furries and - again - a nick fuentes thing
I mean Bella ciao is an antifascist song, I’ve never heard it outside of that context. But I see your point I’m just not plugged in enough to know nick Fuentes use of the phrase
it's trying to be co-opted by groypers to mock the left (i wrote "was" an antifa song, that's not accurate as all my euro comrades keep informing me)
edit: the song is on the groyper war playlist #14. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0ais7KJXx8Gyd0hsrbakKW
"groyper war" is literally nick fuentes terminology for war on conservatives
Bella ciao is such a cool song with a great history. Depressing if groypers are trying to co opt it now. Thank god I have never run across that in the wild though, I’ve only ever seen it in legitimately antifascist contrxts
It got netflixifed and so kinda depolticialized. Its something more vaguely leftish/radlib now.
Fascists can take Bella ciao from my cold dead hands
I can attest that I've heard this song a bunch of times, especially online, in contexts that have nothing to do with Groypers and are genuinely anti-fascist.
i can attest the complete opposite: only heard it through groypers <3
well, i heard it on money heist as well. so my above statement is not completely accurate
this kid was a groyper 100%. watching the Trump conf right now and he's dodging questions about the kid's ideology
They will take Bella Ciao from my cold dead hands.
It's a new far-right GenZ thing, the young gropyers are using it widely as an ironic meme
That's wild, I've hummed bella ciao in public kinda recently. Gonna have to switch to bandiera rossa.
i feel like there are a bunch of niche ideologies on the interwebs these days and it is kind of hard to pay attention to all the tendancies on the right
ciao belle user is a nick fluentes fan and has chosen their name which suggests there is some legitimacy to this theory
Humans really messed up when we came up with symbols that could mean the opposite of themselves.
Inflammable means flammable? What a country
go to any person in the world and ask them about the song and they will know it's anti fascist
to be fair, go to any person IRL (i'm usa) and they won't know shit
you're correct though. "was" isn't fair. genZ groypers are "trying" to co-opt it.
I would bet money that anyone I walked up to on the street would have no idea what I'm talking about
in that case
Americans are more cooked than I ever thought bro
Idk how you end up here and have that high of an expectation for Americans.
knowing Bella Ciao is not a high expectation bro
I'd wager if you ask most people under the age of 50, they'll think it's from the Netflix series "Money Heist" .at least in Europe.
Never have encountered this, I believe you but we regularly have it at my irl socialist meetings
have you got a link on you?
:: le reddit voice :: source???
lolz
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0ais7KJXx8Gyd0hsrbakKW
#14 on the list
ah my bad that is the one i saw on mike on pa
i thought it was a actual playlist named "groyper war playlist #14"
not "groyper war playlist" #14
thanks though
wouldn't be surprised if it's a groyper. I just can't imagine anyone being this lame
They're literally always like this
taking into account the other two casings, dude either specifically wrote down shit like that to make himself seem like a lib or is genuinely a lib. i just didn't write down what the other casings said.
you might be right, but counterargument / i don't read it like that: the gay thing is an edgy homophobic online joke. the catch this fascist is trolling.
i'm putting all my money on it that this is a nick fuentes groyper loser.
this is what the casings said (redirect to BBC). i've got no idea what the dude might be but so far he seems like a lib-adjacent internet-brainrotted cornball. something something wait and see
Which means the media will take it as he is a radical leftist who was trying to resurrect Lenin with a blood sacrifice to Baphomet.
There were inscriptions on casings found within the rifle, Cox said. The inscription on the fired casing said: "notices, bulges, OWO, what's this?"
Three unfired casings also had inscriptions, Cox said.
One read, "Hey fascists! Catch!" with an up arrow, a right arrow and three down arrows.
The second said, "Oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao."
The third, "If you read this, you are gay LMAO."
from nbc
Wait the Helldivers thing was on the "hey fascist catch"? Isn't Helldivers intended to be ironic like starship troopers? Absolutely nonsensical shit
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bella_ciao
It's not this?
that's the song. but again: it's used by groypers to mock the left. it's on their groyper war playlist.
there's zero chance some idiot kid from backwater southern utah knows the real context of that song. it's way more likely, given everything, he got it from nick fuentes circles
There's a very reasonable chance he made a quick turn to radlib circles in the past couple years and was exposed to the song.
I hope to be wrong. I guess there are apparently a solid portion (majority?) of helldivers players that miss all the irony so maybe it tracks?
I guess I don't think it's worth saying that the song itself means one thing or the other, but it's new to me that it was appropriated by groyper culture (among others, like you said).
The one that's still unaccounted for I guess is the "die fascist" or whatever that sounds more liberal than groyper.
idk. i really just don't see it whatsoever. all of the casings are nick fuentes 4chan neonazi memes.
i mean watching the press conference iwth the FBI they are fucking quiet all of a sudden. watching Trump who wouldn't shut up about it is suddenly quiet and dodging questions about his ideology. if this kid was a liberal or leftist there'd be lib/leftist influencers getting arrested literally right now as i type this.
come on now...
edit: lol if it was a leftist there'd be some long written 5,000 page manifesto about more bullshit leftist philosophy that only like 0.00001% of the world can even comprehend. lolz
You can look at how quickly the right wing politicians have backtracked on the retaliation talk. They wouldn't do that if this guy wasn't ideologically one of them.
Definitely keeping my eye on it, it's just early
There is not a single leftist that I am aware of that uses Helldivers memes, ironically or unironically. I have seen it used to make fun of trying to apply Helldiver logic to other games, but that is about it.
And I say that as someone who is in the top 5% of playtime for it. The problem is that the actual fascists fucking ruined it because you know what they mean when they say stuff like 'clackers'. For me it's an immediately boot and block.
I'm coming around to this as the day goes on
I thought people were cooking abit too hard on it myself, but the 'you're gay' and 'OwO' inscriptions are what convinced me that it was a groyper.
Irony poisoned leftists don't call other people gay, they call themselves gay, and the OwO is pretty much only used around here and 4chan (as many of us are 4chan expats), and I doubt a leftist would attempt to implicate furries into whatever stupid shit they are doing. I am literally friends with furries and it comes up maybe once a year, at most, and certainly isn't the most memorable meme that exists within the community. It's a right-wing obsession that tracks into all of their discourse.
Everything else was just chaff as far as I was concerned, but now that context has been provided, that 100% tracks.
That said, dust won't settle until the discord logs are actually released.
it is the same thing though it has existed long enough that it has been adapted to multiple different ideologies/interpretations