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lol Hasan crying like a little lib baby in the background the whole time π
I think he is just personally terrified bc he gets lots of death threats harassment.
Is what it is
I've been scrolling comments on reddit, and yeah some conservatives have been A) pearl clutching about norms and respectability like the good liberals they pretend to be when it suits them and B) looking at Hassan.
He should definitely be considering tighter personal security.
I think his whole thing is that to get a presidential style security team isn't feasible, and that's what you would've needed to stop an unknown shooter posting up 200 yards away. It's really on the institutions that host him to make sure this sort of thing doesn't happen.
KIRK DESERVED IT
but the way kirk was shot was defo scary ,you westerners are weirdos who are de sanitized to violence
I was pretty happy when I heard the news but after seeing the video ,I wasn't able to eat
Am I evil or something? I felt nothing seeing it, I mean it was gross, but like, knowing who it is kind of made me not care. If the video had it happen to anyone else , I would be just like you.
I am pretty happy he's dead but it's been 8 hours since I saw the video and I still can't eat well
I hope you never get desensitized to violence the way a lot of us are, friend. The last one that really affected me was the Christchurch massacre video, and even then I was only bothered for maybe an hour or two. I watched Charlie Kirk die and my only reaction was basically "heh, owned." If he wasn't a complete piece of shit it still would've been sad only in an abstract sense, I don't think this sort of thing can really affect me anymore.
seeing it on the internet with no stakes and nobody you know impacted has to be a factor. I suspect even the most liveleak addled minds would feel differently if it started to hit closer to home. Hopefully we don't have to find out
And thats okay. No one really knows how one reacts in the moment and how it affects them in the long term. Besides ptsd is a thing, so take care comrade!
Nah probably just desensitized from years of violent content, I know I am to an extent, the one shot and blood spurting from the video is far less gruesome than say ISIS/cartel beheadings or industrial accidents videos
You're not alone.
Even as someone who grew up on the pre 2000 internet, this is a shocking scene. Most people in the west do. You have to be very online not to find it distressing.
If someone dying doesn't shake you, even if they deeply have it coming, it's probably time to do some soul searching.
keep in mind I live in Palestine and have seen people get shot before
CW: Discussion of Charlie Kirks death in somewhat graphic detail
Honestly, after having seen pictures of the scores of bodies, a lot of them children, coming out of Gaza, I thought I wouldn't be shaken by the footage of the murder, but watching that man's neck just explode into a fountain of blood still profoundly shocked me. Seeing a corpse is still different from witnessing the action itself, especially in such gory fashion. I basically had to go onto a tour of his greatest hits to remind me of why I shouldn't be too depressed about what I just saw.yea ain't no way I am doing that
too much racism ,dude was scum
but the people saying his death was not gory are ?? idk
I have seen people get shot before and I live in a pretty infamously dangerous country
also thing is I am sure lots of us have seen images of people in gaza but I tend to avoid this shit because it horrifies me ,I checked the video for kirk by mistake (friend sent me somethn about it)
Yeah, the racism is pretty "fun". I'm a Central Asian man, so I definitely feel you. Also, I clicked a link that "pretty much confirmed he's dead". Turns out that was just video footage of his assassination.
I disagree that I need to do some soul searching. You have to temper your hate, and this is part of that process. The death of your enemy cannot shake you, even though they are absolutely human. To actually take a life with your own hands should always shake you though.
That said, it is certainly one of the more gorey videos I have seen, especially given the quality of the footage. Very anti-Hollywood.
I don't know about that, I'm not the type of person to watch violence, I constantly avoid seen images/videos from Palestine or the Ukraine war and I can even feel nauseous with some graphic violence in movies. But with the video yesterday? My first reaction was a big smile.
I don't if it's my job or just myself, working at a hospital, but I felt very little from the video. Not even like a pang of oh no like I do for videos of people being injured, just a bland "huh well that's that he's dead".
I would be worried about doing any public appearances if I were Hasan.
I think that's just logical. If the other side tries to get revenge, Hasan would prob be a top "equivalent" target
For the sake of the new lefties who will use him as a role model I hope this shakes some sense into him about his safety. Dude was walking around the LA protests nearly getting domed by tear gas grenades without a helmet 'cause that wouldn't be sexy
Plot armor is real sometimes
"I-it-It's s-so terrifying"
Like shut up, soft little doughboy goddamn
He's just a human showing a very human reaktion. He's in a position where something like this could very much happen to him, so cut him some slack. Seeing someone die will always be terrifying.
Also, using "softness" as an insult for someone irks me. If you were looking to this demsoc to get your view on political violence affirmed, or if you expected his reaction to be different, you are even more of a fool than Hasan is.
Let it be a reminder of where he stands politically and move on if you haven't already.
Whether we like it or not, Hasan IS the loudest voice of the American "left", he IS the "Joe Rogan" of American left radicalization, more so than Bernie at this late date, sad but true
So it behooves us to take his status seriously and not retreat into bubbles free of demsocs
Also I'm the site's resident Hasan defender for 4 years straight, I've cut the man mountains of slack, NOT TODAY, in this instance the dude can eat his feelings for all I care, the death of media defining fascists shouldn't be treated as a tragedy, initial shock is fine, but the dude went on, and on, and on, for eight hours to the point where even his chat was crying for Kirk, absolutely ridiculous
This is a bit much. He spent like a solid hour going over what a piece of shit Kirk was and how it's disgusting that people are now sanitizing him as a free speech warrior. He also played the clip of Kirk talking about the "tragic necessity" of gun deaths.
Ergh, gross
It didn't happen
Where? Last I checked most of it was centered how media is white washing this fascist guy.
Fair enough. Eight hours sounds ridiculous. What did he even manage to talk about for this long, lol? All I was basing my judgement on was this clip, which was very much still within reason for a demsoc. I was't aware he dragged it on for so long.
It was more like seven hours, with a lot of it being talking in circles and arguing with chat about unreliable updates on Kirk being dead, the shooter being apprehended, etc. and then a lot of time was spent looking at reactions, from several different broadcasts, twitter accounts, Trump, etc. and discussing them, as well as like an hour of just showing clips and tweets from Kirk and discussing based on those what a vile person he was and how it's fucked up to see libs whitewash him.
Eight hours was roughly the length of the whole stream (~8 hours and 19 minutes), which started an hour before he heard about the shooting, and then he was following updates, looking at reactions and old Kirk shit, and discussing things for basically the remainder of the stream. It does still seem really exhausting. I've had about the first five hours of coverage of it on in the background and it was definitely a bit repetitive. I think Hasan seeing his own death was probably a major factor, along with of course having some personal familiarity with Kirk that made it more shocking than it would be for many of the rest of us, for whom the event in and of itself is only a step above a show getting canceled outside of the gore (though I am sure it will be much more important in terms of ripple effects).
If this becomes a precident setting even like NotLuigis unfortunatly wasn't, then Hasan is right to be fearful. He's the lefts only equivalent to the Kirk/Shapiro/Crowder...(insert like 10 more here) in the US that does show himself in public regularly without any form of security detail usually. Not that that helped Kirk.
If there's someone out there looking to "even the scales" they will look for Hasan. Or am I missing someone else?
I agree, Hasan is the most logical target, and Hasan more or less said so several times on stream. The next closest figure who is out in public in America might literally be Zohran, who is somewhat different still. I think whether one or the other is targeted would depend more on where the shooter lives than anything, though age might also play a factor since the people who have a focused hatred of Hasan probably skew younger than those with a focused hatred of Zohran.
That or they just kill some not-even-demsoc lib, because we are still talking about the country where everyone you don't like gets called a communist anyway.
He was just spinning in circles making the same arguments over and over again and pointing out the obvious over and over again: "I knew Charlie Kirk, I debated Charlie Kirk, I stood on a stage with Charlie Kirk" followed by him making a morose face for two minute and then flying into doomerism; "This is so bad, this is impossible to contend with, we're so cooked" and then back pointing out he knew Charlie Kirk
Seriously, this is all he did for eight hours, no mention of Kirk's history or delving into reactions online, just making it about himself and dooming, after the third time he busted out the "I knew Charlie Kirk" line I burst out laughing
It was such an obnoxious buzzkill of a stream, in fact he was similarly comatose during election night last year where he doomed and muttered under his breath the whole night, squandering a once in 4 years audience of 350k people
How are you able to say this? Like, it was definitely a boring stream, so it makes sense that you would stop paying attention, but then why speak so confidently on its content? He absolutely did cover both of those things and spent hours on reactions online in particular, from Trump to Fox to Shapiro to CNN to fucking Asmongold (I think it was a reaction and not an old video in that case, but I'm not sure) but also went to old tweets from Kirk and the clip of him talking about the "grim necessity" of stochastic gun deaths that people are rightfully quoting from, and talking in general about how the whitewashing of Kirk by other media figures is disgusting.
That clip was from him seeing the footage for the first time. What kind of brainrot do you have that you're basically calling him soy in response to a gore video where the subject is someone he personally knows and has interacted with in person? Like, there are lots of other things about his subsequent stream to justly criticize, but this is gross and just makes you look like the most obnoxious r/watchpeopledie user.
I literally said in another comment his "Initial shock is fine" and NO I didn't call him "Soy", sure I should've made it more clear I was coming in from watching his whole stream and not simply the initial react clip above
I called him SOFT because he kept repeating the "It's terrifying" line for FIVE fuckin hours, sorry my lack of radlib vocab irked you
Your clarification is noted. Your response then is less bad but still seriously failing to understand how there are multiple factors that mean that his internal reaction to this is going to be wildly different from yours, because again he knew Kirk (and has known him for several years now) and has a very similar job that also involves making frequent public appearances. He gets daily death threats that range from "this person is a terrorist and something needs to stop him" to "I will shoot you" and then saw someone who could reasonably be called less radical (much more evil, but closer to the evil political center) and who has more security, get killed on camera, which he saw three angles of. It would be alarming in its own right for this to not be even slightly traumatizing to him.
I'd be fucking terrified in that position and I'd say so for more than 5 hours (not that he was catatonic, because he was mainly saying other things even in the first hour), and perhaps I'm ""soft"" but that's probably not a strong case for why.
Lastly, yes, "soft" in this use is basically equivalent to "soy" and I'm not asking you for "radlib vocab" (fuck off, I'm the last person on this shitty radlib board to do that), I'm asking you to reconsider the actual content of what you were saying because changing out the word for some sanitized equivalent is not changing the content, and the idea that having a fucking traumatic reaction to a traumatizing event makes you "soft" is honestly one type of reactionary rhetoric that I really don't expect to see here because I'd think that the userbase could identify it as being reactionary. That's silly of me, in retrospect, because that's not quite how people handle things here.
Like, I know it's a low bar, but could we start by not deeming someone a p*ssy (idk if that one gets removed uncensored) for being terrified by the graphic killing of someone they know in a situation that could just as easily have applied to them? As others have noted and Hasan himself monotonously repeated, he was going to make a public appearance with this fucker in like two weeks. To have any more of an experience of dodging a bullet while seeing what would have happened if he didn't dodge it, he would have needed to be there!
I think a lot of his finger-wagging at chat was silly and incorrect, but come on, this is not the point to get him on.
You said "he is a soft little doughboy" for reiterating that the prospect of getting shot at in public is terrifying.
Then you double down to say, oh he said it over several hours. So reiterating it multiple times also makes him a "soft little doughboy".
Only REAL HARD MEN will not budge at death threats or death. Only soft morons cowers at footage of death. Wow such an unmanly thing to do.
You said those things. At least own up to it. You just turned around to say you didn't mean but also you did.
If that's your 7-hour long reaction to a prominent fascist getting shot, then yes you're a SOOOOOFFFFT little doughboy who needs to get his head out of his ass, it's almost like it wasn't simply his initial concerned reaction to blowback, but instead an hours long crashout about how Kirk getting domed automatically means he's dead to rights, lol so you stfu, you didn't watch the whole stream
SΓ, thanks for keeping up, in case you forgot we're talking about a millionaire who has the resources to secure his safety, not some rando working class leftie facing imminent right-wing assault over Kirk getting got
Oh yeah, we're all just talking about a random murder video, totally has nothing to with politics and the state of fascism in this country, we're just edgelords passing around dark web snuff films and laughing at people who cringe at them, that's absolutely a reasonable summary of yesterday's events. I didn't think my radlib hunch would get this validated
Is that what you call me adding context (me watching the whole shitty stream) I'm sorry, I didn't know I wasn't allowed to do that
Cool got it.
So where is the parts where he is crying, like a little baby lib. I guess giving a description is crying then.
Epic own my good sirs
The tone of his voice? He sounds like heβs about to burst into tears. God if there was one rule I could institute on Hexbear it would be to ban simping for Hasan. Itβs just a Trojan horse of liberalism entering this website on a daily basis. Just because the guy is on the right side of Palestine doesnβt make him a communist. medhi hasan and MTG are against the genocide ffs. I know a lot of yβall canβt let go of the parasocial relationship established with him at age 15 but Iβm begging you to move on.
Anyway hope he sees this bro!
You are really making a lot of assumptions here. But hey go off.
I said what I said.
Oh really. So describing a shooting with a serious tone is as you say "sounds like he will burst into tears", is crying like a little baby. Too bad I'm not that tuned in to catch all that.
Ralph Bunche ova here. You should try answering things normally.
I watched like 40 min or so and yeah he definitely seemed like his sense of security was fundamentally broken.
God I had a brainfart and thought you said hakim and was immediately confused