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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/35968039

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

If you were looking to this demsoc to get your view on political violence affirmed, or if you expected his reaction to be different, you are even more of a fool than Hasan is.

Whether we like it or not, Hasan IS the loudest voice of the American "left", he IS the "Joe Rogan" of American left radicalization, more so than Bernie at this late date, sad but true

So it behooves us to take his status seriously and not retreat into bubbles free of demsocs

Also I'm the site's resident Hasan defender for 4 years straight, I've cut the man mountains of slack, NOT TODAY, in this instance the dude can eat his feelings for all I care, the death of media defining fascists shouldn't be treated as a tragedy, initial shock is fine, but the dude went on, and on, and on, for eight hours to the point where even his chat was crying for Kirk, absolutely ridiculous

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago

but the dude went on, and on, and on, for eight hours to the point where even his chat was crying for Kirk, absolutely ridiculous

This is a bit much. He spent like a solid hour going over what a piece of shit Kirk was and how it's disgusting that people are now sanitizing him as a free speech warrior. He also played the clip of Kirk talking about the "tragic necessity" of gun deaths.

[–] SmithrunHills@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

to the point where even his chat was crying for Kirk

Ergh, gross catgirl-disgust

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

It didn't happen

[–] Red_sun_in_the_sky@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

crying for kirk

Where? Last I checked most of it was centered how media is white washing this fascist guy.

[–] Nama@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Fair enough. Eight hours sounds ridiculous. What did he even manage to talk about for this long, lol? All I was basing my judgement on was this clip, which was very much still within reason for a demsoc. I was't aware he dragged it on for so long.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It was more like seven hours, with a lot of it being talking in circles and arguing with chat about unreliable updates on Kirk being dead, the shooter being apprehended, etc. and then a lot of time was spent looking at reactions, from several different broadcasts, twitter accounts, Trump, etc. and discussing them, as well as like an hour of just showing clips and tweets from Kirk and discussing based on those what a vile person he was and how it's fucked up to see libs whitewash him.

Eight hours was roughly the length of the whole stream (~8 hours and 19 minutes), which started an hour before he heard about the shooting, and then he was following updates, looking at reactions and old Kirk shit, and discussing things for basically the remainder of the stream. It does still seem really exhausting. I've had about the first five hours of coverage of it on in the background and it was definitely a bit repetitive. I think Hasan seeing his own death was probably a major factor, along with of course having some personal familiarity with Kirk that made it more shocking than it would be for many of the rest of us, for whom the event in and of itself is only a step above a show getting canceled outside of the gore (though I am sure it will be much more important in terms of ripple effects).

[–] Nama@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If this becomes a precident setting even like NotLuigis unfortunatly wasn't, then Hasan is right to be fearful. He's the lefts only equivalent to the Kirk/Shapiro/Crowder...(insert like 10 more here) in the US that does show himself in public regularly without any form of security detail usually. Not that that helped Kirk.

If there's someone out there looking to "even the scales" they will look for Hasan. Or am I missing someone else?

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

I agree, Hasan is the most logical target, and Hasan more or less said so several times on stream. The next closest figure who is out in public in America might literally be Zohran, who is somewhat different still. I think whether one or the other is targeted would depend more on where the shooter lives than anything, though age might also play a factor since the people who have a focused hatred of Hasan probably skew younger than those with a focused hatred of Zohran.

That or they just kill some not-even-demsoc lib, because we are still talking about the country where everyone you don't like gets called a communist anyway.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

He was just spinning in circles making the same arguments over and over again and pointing out the obvious over and over again: "I knew Charlie Kirk, I debated Charlie Kirk, I stood on a stage with Charlie Kirk" followed by him making a morose face for two minute and then flying into doomerism; "This is so bad, this is impossible to contend with, we're so cooked" and then back pointing out he knew Charlie Kirk

Seriously, this is all he did for eight hours, no mention of Kirk's history or delving into reactions online, just making it about himself and dooming, after the third time he busted out the "I knew Charlie Kirk" line I burst out laughing

It was such an obnoxious buzzkill of a stream, in fact he was similarly comatose during election night last year where he doomed and muttered under his breath the whole night, squandering a once in 4 years audience of 350k people

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Seriously, this is all he did for eight hours, no mention of Kirk's history or delving into reactions online,

How are you able to say this? Like, it was definitely a boring stream, so it makes sense that you would stop paying attention, but then why speak so confidently on its content? He absolutely did cover both of those things and spent hours on reactions online in particular, from Trump to Fox to Shapiro to CNN to fucking Asmongold (I think it was a reaction and not an old video in that case, but I'm not sure) but also went to old tweets from Kirk and the clip of him talking about the "grim necessity" of stochastic gun deaths that people are rightfully quoting from, and talking in general about how the whitewashing of Kirk by other media figures is disgusting.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

from Trump to Fox to Shapiro to CNN to fucking Asmongold

I said ONLINE reactions, not the gibbering whitewashing nonsense of low viewer news corps and who cares what Asmongold thinks, that ghoul literally retired from streaming a couple days ago

but also went to old tweets from Kirk and the clip of him talking about the "grim necessity" of stochastic gun deaths that people are rightfully quoting from, and talking in general about how the whitewashing of Kirk by other media figures is disgusting.

Fair enough, I must've missed it, I skipped about 40 mins of the stream out of frustration

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I said ONLINE reactions, not the gibbering whitewashing nonsense of low viewer news corps and who cares what Asmongold thinks, that ghoul literally retired from streaming a couple days ago

The Trump responses that I'm talking about are the AI-looking video that he posted online and there might have also been a tweet or something, Shapiro was online, Asmongold is literally the biggest political streamer, at least on Twitch (and I think he's on break, not really retired, but idk because I don't follow him), and Fox is much larger still, whether we like it or not. Plus a bunch of other online responses, even multiple officials from Israel (Bibi and others). Like, what are you looking for? I listed a few more in another comment and I think both times I forgot Owens was also there and . . . I mean, he covered a lot of people. He could have done more, you and I both agree that he wasted a tremendous amount of time, but this criticism seems silly. Like, how many online reactions does he need to cover? What's the minimum viewership? Do I need to go check the analytics on all of the legacy media who posted clips online to decide how relevant they are just because their audience is mainly older than us?

I think he did a reasonable job in this respect and it was really the dominant part of the stream that wasn't the (again we agree, over-long and pointless) talking in circles about news updates and shit.

Fair enough, I must've missed it, I skipped about 40 mins of the stream out of frustration

I think I skipped basically the last 2 hours except the very end because I was morbidly curious about the Asmongold thing, which was basically the last 10 minutes. A lot of what I saw was from the bot clip channel, which posted like 90% of his stream today because traffic is traffic ig.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

The Trump responses that I'm talking about are the AI-looking video that he posted online and there might have also been a tweet or something

He spent the whole segment silently eating and yelling at chat over them noticing the AI

Asmongold is literally the biggest political streamer, at least on Twitch

He's not, he lost half his "viewers" after the bot ban, which is partly why he's quitting, Hasan was guilty of presenting him as a bigger threat than he actually was, Hasan believed the views were real

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's wild how people come on here and just lie about Hasan the same way the destiny-sphere does. (Just "from the left" or something)

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

I can't tell if they were lying. Maybe they explained in on of their last replies but I just get tired of arguments and stop reading, which probably isn't the best response but it gives them the last word so they leave it there at least . . .

Anyway, I fully support attacking Hasan over being a demsoc, but I truly can't stand misinformation and I find it really frustrating when people engage in spreading falsehoods that they have literally no reason to believe, whether because they're lying or because of some other reason that I can't fathom. I also don't like the reactionary shit about being "soft," it just reeks of calling someone "unmanly" in so many words as another commenter said. idk, I don't like "defending" Hasan this much, but factual falsehoods and reactionary rhetoric are ways of attacking him that harm us much more than they harm demsoc-ism.

[–] Nama@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I just had two very different summarizations of the stream, but i guess either way his coverage isn't something I need to watch.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's not a stream worth watching (it was tedious even for a Hasan stream), but CM here is flatly misrepresenting it and I'm not really sure why, since they have no reason to lie but Hasan obviously went through a ton of different reactions on stream, either playing clips or reading aloud tweets Reactions he went over included: Shapiro, Loomer, Musk, Trump, Netanyahu and a couple of other Israeli politicians, Asmon and his comment section, a couple of liberal news panels, a panel with Greg Gutfeld on Fox, and a few others I forget and one that isn't worth trying to describe, along with obviously statements from the cops and a local politician.

Like, the stream sucked and Hasan's a demsoc who said demsoc shit, but CM makes it sound like Hasan was just talking to chat/himself and replaying snuff footage for 8 hours straight, which factually isn't true.

[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think part of it is perhaps more cynical - it's a big moment where he gets to redefine his image to the mainstream (which is somewhat important I guess for his outreach to new viewers).

The other part of it is very human though - he could've been sharing a stage with Kirk when it happened, and ultimately if the hogs retaliate then Hasan could end up in their crosshairs.